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Old 12-22-2008, 11:52 AM
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AVANTI....read these post carefully....there r hundreds of thousands of hours of flying experience on here telling u

DO NOT DO THIS!
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 328dude View Post
I've done the northern crossing in a DO-328 a few times, but I just have a question. With all that gas on there, what's your useful load? I'm no wizz on survival equipment or rafts, but the one we rented was huge and very heavy. Do they make stuff small enough for SE ops?

OBTW, wait till spring if at all. Keflavic is not fun in January.

Don't worry she is only going to takeoff 40% over gross. Must be thinking of that "buffer" that the manufacturer builds in. It should be ok.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:59 AM
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Many people have said that you shouldn't do it, and I agree with them. However, it appears like you're going to be doing this no matter what. In that case, why not take 30 gallons less fuel (3 hours), and use that weight that you save to take an experienced pilot along?
No one will be dumb enough to ride along on a recip single engine at night/IMC over the Atlantic during the winter time. I'd rather take along a life raft, or 30 pounds of explosives so when you hit the water it will be over quick.

After reading these posts I am a bit incredulous that the poster doesn't want to head the advice of many other pilots with varied backgrounds. To the poster: you posted this on the Major Airline section. The posts you have gotten back have been given by pilots with thousands of hours of experience and many of them have international experience. You are contemplating a trip that could very well cost you your life. If it was a student of yours suggesting the same thing, what advice would you give them?

As others have posted, you are in so far over your head you don't even realize it. I just returned from a cruise where the winds averaged 50-60 knots. They were forecast to be 20-30. The seas were swelling up to 25 feet. I am at a loss of words with how to write to you right now except to say with your 1200 TT why don't you apply at a regional. Get some good experience. When the Majors hire again in a few years, get on with one, then bid a 767, 777, 330 or 747 from which you will enjoy many TATL crossings in the comfort of pressurized transport jet, with triple autopilots, a lav, set rest breaks with your crew of three or four, Satcom, etc.

You must be smart enough to realize this is insane. If not, may I suggest that try crossing Lake Michigan prior to this trip when the weather is bad and temps are below freezing. After you scare the crap out of yourself on your hour crossing, you will realize your 12-15 hour segments will be ridiculous.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:03 PM
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So avanti, I never thought moving your thread here would generate this kind of response! I have a lot of respect for many of the posters who care enough about you to warn you of the folly you are about to undertake.

If you are determined to go, I also suggest getting your Last Will and Testament in order, obtain life insurance, take care of other financial and personal stuff like changing beneficiaries in your IRA or other things along those lines.

If there is a chance of getting out of this contract, do so. I am happy to read the contract for you. We might find some interesting nuggets, eh?
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vagabond View Post
obtain life insurance, take care of other financial and personal stuff

Many life insurance policies exclude general aviation accidents. Besides, even if they did, and I was the adjuster, I'd just bring this thread to court with the grieving loved ones who were left behind and argue that it was suicide.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:12 PM
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Find the guy flying this airplane. He has over 300 crossings in single pistons. He can teach you much if you buy the beer at the Ground Round.

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Old 12-22-2008, 12:23 PM
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I've done the North Atlantic in 757's, 767's and 777's. If someone offered me one million dollars to do it in a C172 (of which I have 2500 hours), I would say NO!
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:26 PM
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Don't worry I think she has only had about 2 days to plan this flight and is asking these questions today when she said she will be flying it over Christmas. So... 4 days to plan this, get all required charts, all required clearances to enter the countries she will be flying over, do a weight and balance (I wonder how the cg will move when you burn fuel at 30% over gross), study up on how to deal with FIR boundries, how to use a HF radio, customs requirements for each and every country you land at(including hours of operation and advanced notice requirements, for some its requires written notice), deicing capabilities at the airports in the north (if they require advance notice for fuel, they might need it for this also), etc, etc
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:54 PM
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:03 PM
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Will you marry me?

Don't worry i will take care of the cost of the massive life insurance policy!!

Joking aside....Sweat heart, do yourself a favour, put the crack pipe down and choose life.

If you do this you will surely die!
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