Iflyfr8

Risk management is one thing we pilot’s do for every flight.

This ferry flight goes so far beyond risk management that I’m having trouble finding words for it.

Please think long and hard about this.

HoursHore

No one has mentioned the fact that you will need a Cat II aircraft to land in delhi with the pollution!!! And all your shots.

Diver Driver

I'd have to agree. Please, don't do it... you really seem like a nice person. I'd hate to read about this on CNN. A C172 is not designed for icing conditions... let alone at 30% over gross, overwater, single pilot. I would be apprehensive about doing this in a CRJ just because of the countries I'd be flying over/into. If you feel that you have to do it, wait until the weather gets better (summer) or take someone along that has experience with single engine, transoceanic winter ops.

Just out of curiosity and to give you better advice, what are your flight times? With my 6 years in aviation, two of which in the airlines, I can say with certainty that I would NOT accept this flight assignment due to my lack of experience in specific areas.

Please do not do this! I am very concerned you will lose your life over this. You seem like a really nice person and if the picture in your user profile is you, you are so beautiful. Please don't, it is not worth it.

pilotgolfer

If you are going to do this, please take PoconoPilot and TankerClown with you.

Danzig

22 December 2008 HRPT (6)
European synoptic weather charts

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/BIRK.html
winds aloft
New Delhi, India Forecast : Weather Underground

uh huh.

PS - Use WunderGround to check out the weather history for Delhi. Specifically focus on the visibility. The average is less than a mile, I'll wager.

as737700

Many people have said that you shouldn't do it, and I agree with them. However, it appears like you're going to be doing this no matter what. In that case, why not take 30 gallons less fuel (3 hours), and use that weight that you save to take an experienced pilot along?

Spooled

this trip is a death wish.

Over weight, 180hp, no anti ice, no electrical heating. Have you flown in anything temps below 0 in a recip? Your windows will not defrost, you'll need your survival suit on just to stay warm.

Winter flying is not fun, unless you are flying equipment certified for it.

Being a CFII/MEI I would hope you have the common sense to not do this.

Wait til summer.

BringDaFunk

To the orignal poster...have you ferried an aircraft before? It goods that you're planning it out now, because some of those airports up north won't fuel you unless you order it prior to your visit. On your way there, dont overthink things too much, there are moments of extreme boredom, and then of extreme terror.Bring music and a dvd player, music for the day, and dvd player for night,that will be the only source of light at night....the stars are alot brighter, but notbright enough to keep you from wondering, where the hell am i? Good Luck to you, and I hope your planning pays off, I don't nkow if you have been swayed tto not continue with this but, hey its up to you....by the way, how much are you supposed to be getting paid for this?

ntak

Whether this is a) advice or b) worthwhile advice or c) none of the above, I don't know.

Half of me says go for it. If I didn't do any of the risky adventures away from work people tell me I'm crazy to do, I wouldn't have much fun nor have many good stories to tell around a beer. I'm almost inclined to ask you to find a 2nd 172 and I'll follow.

The other half of me also says go for it, but to be as prepared as one could be for it, to think through all that might happen, and to have an out (within reason, and I can't think of what that 'out' is exactly in an iced-up cessna in the middle of the Atlantic). And lastly, to be able to look yourself in the mirror and say that this risk is worth the chance of losing your life.

Just the thinking through all that might happen can be mind-numbing. 5-6 hours (or longer) in a 172 at a time, unable to move around, physiological needs possibly becoming more than just an inconvenience (all the anecdotes of people rushing an unplanned stop at whatever airfield because their lunch was um how shall we say, not making ITS planned stop, come to mind here).

So, think about it (thoroughly), plan it out (thoroughly), think about it some more, heck, fly the damn route on microsoft flight simulator and don't let yourself get up from your chair until each 'landing', and if after all that you still want to do it, have fun and if it goes well your money is no good at any bar I'm at.

papacharlie

Hi Avanti I learn to fly in the andes mountains (mendoza argentina) and I can tell you one thing DONT FLY A 172 IF YOU WILL ENCOUNTER ICE ,SPECIALLY OVER THE OCEAN....PERIOD.
Listen to all the people giving you advice and look at how many of us are telling you NOT TO DO IT and then THINK ...THINK...AND...LET IT GO STOP THINKING ABOUT IT...DO NOT DO IT.
Have a nice day.