Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Hangar Talk
Love Him or Hate Him >

Love Him or Hate Him

Search

Notices
Hangar Talk For non-aviation-related discussion and aviation threads that don't belong elsewhere

Love Him or Hate Him

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-28-2010 | 04:37 PM
  #1  
UAL T38 Phlyer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderate Moderator
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,681
Likes: 0
From: Curator at Static Display
Default Love Him or Hate Him

Alfred Kahn, 'Godfather' of Airline Deregulation, Dies at 93
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 05:55 PM
  #2  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,740
Likes: 15
Default

If you or a family member has ever bought an airplane ticket for under $1,000, you probably like this guy.

If you work for an airline that has started flying in the past 30 years, you probably like this guy.

If you are in the bottom 50% of the seniority list for any airline, and you appreciate the fact that you have a job, you probably like this guy.

I know a few pilots try to argue that deregulation was bad for the aviation industry, but I just don't see it. Deregulation is the reason we have such a large and robust airline industry where almost anyone in the country can take a flight on a long distance trip, and is the reason that most of us has jobs.
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 06:26 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 576
Likes: 0
Default

Quality is more important than quantity. Flying used to be a classy affair. Pilots were well-paid and had a stable, honorable career. And I'm a young "regional" captain saying this......
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 06:30 PM
  #4  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 222
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by iahflyr
If you or a family member has ever bought an airplane ticket for under $1,000, you probably like this guy.

If you work for an airline that has started flying in the past 30 years, you probably like this guy.

If you are in the bottom 50% of the seniority list for any airline, and you appreciate the fact that you have a job, you probably like this guy.

I know a few pilots try to argue that deregulation was bad for the aviation industry, but I just don't see it. Deregulation is the reason we have such a large and robust airline industry where almost anyone in the country can take a flight on a long distance trip, and is the reason that most of us has jobs.
Wow!
You actually believe this?
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 06:37 PM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,413
Likes: 0
From: forever fo
Default

I believe it, if it was still regulated, 50% of the pilot jobs out there would not exist, esp @ the level starting @ regional onward. It would be a good old boys club, including those in the back.
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 07:06 PM
  #6  
rickair7777's Avatar
Prime Minister/Moderator
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 45,167
Likes: 803
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Default

Originally Posted by rickt86
I believe it, if it was still regulated, 50% of the pilot jobs out there would not exist, esp @ the level starting @ regional onward. It would be a good old boys club, including those in the back.
I agree. Deregulation was good for most folks, but it was allowed to go to a little to far. The top 5-10% of the legacy seniority lists probably would have been better off without deregulation.

Some things need a certain level of regulation for safety, stability, or both.

Banks are regulated for stability. Nuclear power is regulated for safety.

Electrical utilities need to be regulated for stability, as California found out in 2000.

Airlines need to be regulated for both safety and stability, because you can't get safety without economic stability for the companies and employees.
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 07:06 PM
  #7  
FlyJSH's Avatar
Day puke
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,865
Likes: 0
From: Out.
Default

Originally Posted by iahflyr
If you or a family member has ever bought an airplane ticket for under $1,000, you probably like this guy.

If you work for an airline that has started flying in the past 30 years, you probably like this guy.

If you are in the bottom 50% of the seniority list for any airline, and you appreciate the fact that you have a job, you probably like this guy.

I know a few pilots try to argue that deregulation was bad for the aviation industry, but I just don't see it. Deregulation is the reason we have such a large and robust airline industry where almost anyone in the country can take a flight on a long distance trip, and is the reason that most of us has jobs.
Based on your prior posts,

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...tml#post896958
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...tml#post897062
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tml#post911179

the fact you think deregulation is so great is not surprising.
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 07:09 PM
  #8  
FlyJSH's Avatar
Day puke
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,865
Likes: 0
From: Out.
Default

I just wish the FDA would deregulate the pharmaceutical industry. I have a great formula for snake oil!
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 07:14 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,047
Likes: 0
From: 767 FO
Default

So you are saying you disagree, there would be just as many airlines/aircraft/flights today had deregulation not occured?

If you wish to debate please make a point and not an ad hominem attack.
Reply
Old 12-28-2010 | 08:05 PM
  #10  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,740
Likes: 15
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Airlines need to be regulated for both safety and stability, because you can't get safety without economic stability for the companies and employees.
I completely agree with this statement. I believe in a certain amount of regulation for everything. I am not one of those anti-government and anti-regulation people. It is generally a good thing in small doses.

With that said, aviation is probably the most regulated industry in the country. Look at all the laws that govern us. It's pretty insane. I believe those laws are the reason that aviation is the safest form of transportation known to man.

But I completely believe that deregulation did more good than bad for the industry.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jungle
Hangar Talk
5
08-08-2009 04:21 PM
jungle
Hangar Talk
0
06-14-2009 05:38 PM
SkyHigh
Leaving the Career
35
10-20-2008 05:44 PM
Skygirl
Hangar Talk
24
02-04-2007 12:11 PM
SWAjet
Major
0
02-19-2005 03:14 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices