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Old 08-02-2011 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
USMCFLYR;

You are talking to the wrong guy. I, like you, spent a good long time in gov't service (29 years mil active and reserve) and as an aerospace test contractor working with and for the DoD and NASA. It has been my experience that the FAA is always playing catch up technically. Why is it that RNAV RNP took so long to get approved by the FAA? Because they were steam guage 727 brains. The FAA doesn't develop things they contract it out and then question the product.

I dont despise the FAA, one of my best friends is an FAA SES and another is a Mx inspector (fulltime FAA) an old bud is an FAA flight check pilot.

I dont have a thing at all against the FAA. I am just speaking truthfully about what I have personally witnessed and been party to.
I have no idea why RNAV RNP as taken so long. WAY outside of my realm of influence. I'm as about on the ground floor as you can - and as such - I see ,and work with, the "little" people who do actually produce resuts in their tiny part of the world and are doing exactly what you say people aren't - pulling out wrenchs and fixing things. Maybe you are looking too big then if you don't believe that people aren't out there doing the *hard* work and not just shuffling papers from one pile to another - even in the FAA. Ask your ole' Flight Inspection buddy if he doesn't see the same thing.

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Old 08-02-2011 | 06:40 PM
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And you can make this statement based upon what concrete evidence?
Depts of Education,HUD,Interior,Commerce.Most of depts of Energy,Labor,Agriculture.Some of medicare/medicaid,foreign aid,war on drugs,social security.The postal service,amtrak,maintaing vacant federal property,earmarks,fannie mae/freddie mac,NSF,TSA,SBA,federal flood ins,PBS,endowments for arts/humanities,neighborhood reinvestment corp,corp for national community service.Some of SEC,FCC,DOT,DOJ,DOD.I am sure I missed some,but tsquare's estimate of 90% I think is pretty close.
Old 08-02-2011 | 06:59 PM
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"ObamaCare Explained"










Let me get this straight . . . ...
We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,
Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,
written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a President who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,
for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,
by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,
all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!
'Is there something

WRONG with

this picture?'
Old 08-03-2011 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
"ObamaCare Explained"

Let me get this straight . . . ...
We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,
Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,
written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a President who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,
for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,
by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,
all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!
'Is there something

WRONG with

this picture?'
Yes, there's no single-payer or public option.
This is Romneycare, or old BobDoleCare, or NixonCare (except he wanted the mandate placed on the employer). A healthcare mandate has always been a republican idea.

However, in the law, each state has the power to adopt their own plan if it's better/more efficient, etc, to cut costs. But no state, even Texas, has been able to introduce their own plan. If any state does propose and implement their own plan, it'll probably be Vermont, and that'll most likely be single payer.

Republicans shouldn't be upset with Obama, Liberals should be the ones upset. Since he's been in office he's more of a moderate-republican than a liberal-progressive. Republicans have gotten more of what they wanted than Democrats. They just won't admit it because it's tanking the economy.

Now most of the FAA is shutdown. The government ran air traffic control system is funtioning though so planes don't solder themselves in the sky and completely shutdown commerce. Though the Tea Party would love to see that get shutdown too since Hamilton didn't write the Air Traffic Control System in the Constitution.

Are ticket prices cheaper now that the FAA isn't collecting taxes to pay for maintaining the navigational equipment that you rely so heavily on and trust, or to pay for runway you land on, or lights, or is someone making sure your company is maintaining your airplane to the minimum standard that is (actually, i think most inspectors are still on the job, just without pay. You try that.) ? No, now the airlines raised fares and are just pocketing the money. (Maybe they're saving the extra cash so they can restore your pension.)

(The Social Security Trust Fund being bankrupt is misleading. SS brings in more money than it shells out (had some $2.5trillion surplus.) It's in the red cuz it's full of IOU's to pay for wars, wallstreet, tax cuts, etc.)
Old 08-03-2011 | 03:33 AM
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Government Losses to Top $1 Billion After Congress Fails to Reach Deal on FAA

Aug 02, 2011 11:37 PM EDT

The government is likely to lose more than $1 billion in airline ticket taxes because lawmakers have left town for a month without resolving a partisan standoff over a bill to end the partial shutdown of the Federal Aviation Administration.

The government already has lost more than $200 million since airlines are unable to collect taxes on ticket sales because the FAA's operating authority has expired.

The Senate recessed on Tuesday until September, erasing any possibility for quickly resolving the issue. The House left Monday night.

Caught up in the partisan acrimony are nearly 4,000 FAA employees who have been furloughed. The FAA also has issued stop work orders on more than 200 construction projects, threatening the jobs of thousands of other workers. Air traffic controllers, however, remain on the job.

The debacle could have had an upside for airline passengers because ticket taxes, which typically average about $30 on a $300 round-trip fare, are suspended during the shutdown. But airlines decided to pocket the windfall. Within hours of the shutdown on July 23, most airlines raised their fares by amounts equivalent to the taxes that disappeared.

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood called airline CEOs to complain and lawmakers have sent letters demanding the fare hikes be reversed and the profits be placed in escrow. But their howls have largely been ignored. Airlines collectively lost about $440 million in the first six months of this year, according to the Air Transport Association.

Some passengers will be due tax refunds if they bought their tickets and paid taxes before the shutdown, but their travel took place during the time airlines no longer had authority to collect the money. Airlines and the Internal Revenue Service are quarreling over who will handle the complicated and expensive process of getting those refunds to passengers.

President Barack Obama implored Congress on Tuesday to settle the dispute before leaving town, calling the stalemate "another Washington-inflicted wound on America."

LaHood, a former GOP congressman, conveyed the same message in a series of private meetings on Capitol Hill and in phone calls to lawmakers, but was unable to clinch a deal.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., chairman of the Senate committee that oversees the FAA, held out the possibility that if the Senate were able to pass a bill acceptable to Democrats, it could still be approved by the House using obscure parliamentary procedures, and sent to the White House.

But his House counterpart, Rep. John Mica, R-Fla., ruled out that possibility. The only way left to end the shutdown is for the Senate to agree to a previously passed House bill containing $16.5 million cuts in air service subsidies to 13 rural communities that some Democrats particularly Rockefeller find objectionable.

"The only one holding this up now is Mr. Rockefeller," Mica said. One of the 13 communities that would lose subsidies is Morgantown, W.Va.

The entire air service subsidy program costs about $200 million a year, roughly the amount the government lost in uncollected ticket taxes in the first week of the shutdown. The program was created after airlines were deregulated in 1978 to ensure continued service on less profitable routes to remote communities. But critics say some communities receiving subsidies are within a reasonable driving distance of a hub airport.

Subsidies per airline passenger range as high as $3,720 in Ely, Nev., to as low as $9.21 in Thief River Falls, Minn., according to the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said Republicans were trying to force Democrats to accept policy concessions they would be unable to enact through normal legislative procedures. Democrats tried repeatedly over the past two weeks to pass a bill extending the FAA's operating authority without the subsidy cuts, but were blocked by Republican senators each time.

"Republicans are playing reckless games with airline safety," Reid said in a statement. "We should not let ideology interfere with making sure that Americans' air travel runs as smoothly and safely as possible."

Underlying the subsidy dispute, was a broader, more politically-charged dispute over a labor provision inserted by House Republicans into a separate, long-term FAA funding bill. The FAA's last long-term funding bill expired in 2007. Since then, Congress has been unable to agree on a long-term plan. The agency has continued to operate under a series of 20 short-term extensions.

Democrats said the air services cuts were being used as leverage to force them to give in to the House on a labor provision, which the White House has said Obama would veto. They see the provision as part of a national effort by Republicans, both in Congress and in state capitals, to undermine organized labor.

The provision would overturn a National Mediation Board rule approved last year that allows airline and railroad employees to form a union by a simple majority of those voting. Under the old rule, workers who didn't vote were treated as "no" votes.

Democrats and union officials say the change puts airline and railroad elections under the same democratic rules required for unionizing all other companies. But Republicans complain that the new rule reverses 75 years of precedent to favor labor unions.

"Democrats have to decide if they are going to be the handmaidens of the labor unions in every policy," Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader, told reporters. "Every now and then they should put the American people first instead of their constituency."

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Old 08-03-2011 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
"ObamaCare Explained"


Let me get this straight . . . ...
We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,
Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,
written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a President who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,
for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,
by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,
all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!
'Is there something

WRONG with

this picture?'

Yikes!

We're in trouble.

Carl
Old 08-03-2011 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Yikes!

We're in trouble.

Carl
Yup we are, but not because of a health care law. Politicians are willing to hold the country hostage instead of compromise.
Old 08-03-2011 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RuttR
Yes, there's no single-payer or public option.
This is Romneycare, or old BobDoleCare, or NixonCare (except he wanted the mandate placed on the employer). A healthcare mandate has always been a republican idea.

However, in the law, each state has the power to adopt their own plan if it's better/more efficient, etc, to cut costs. But no state, even Texas, has been able to introduce their own plan. If any state does propose and implement their own plan, it'll probably be Vermont, and that'll most likely be single payer.

Republicans shouldn't be upset with Obama, Liberals should be the ones upset. Since he's been in office he's more of a moderate-republican than a liberal-progressive. Republicans have gotten more of what they wanted than Democrats. They just won't admit it because it's tanking the economy.

Now most of the FAA is shutdown. The government ran air traffic control system is funtioning though so planes don't solder themselves in the sky and completely shutdown commerce. Though the Tea Party would love to see that get shutdown too since Hamilton didn't write the Air Traffic Control System in the Constitution.

Are ticket prices cheaper now that the FAA isn't collecting taxes to pay for maintaining the navigational equipment that you rely so heavily on and trust, or to pay for runway you land on, or lights, or is someone making sure your company is maintaining your airplane to the minimum standard that is (actually, i think most inspectors are still on the job, just without pay. You try that.) ? No, now the airlines raised fares and are just pocketing the money. (Maybe they're saving the extra cash so they can restore your pension.)

(The Social Security Trust Fund being bankrupt is misleading. SS brings in more money than it shells out (had some $2.5trillion surplus.) It's in the red cuz it's full of IOU's to pay for wars, wallstreet, tax cuts, etc.)

You are a non-pilot troll go away and quit drinking the liberal koolaid.
Old 08-03-2011 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
"Democrats have to decide if they are going to be the handmaidens of the labor unions in every policy," Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader, told reporters. "Every now and then they should put the American people first instead of their constituency."
Down with Labor! Who needs a middle class?! I personally try not to associate myself with the "help".
Old 08-03-2011 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tim123
Depts of Education,HUD,Interior,Commerce.Most of depts of Energy,Labor,Agriculture.Some of medicare/medicaid,foreign aid,war on drugs,social security.The postal service,amtrak,maintaing vacant federal property,earmarks,fannie mae/freddie mac,NSF,TSA,SBA,federal flood ins,PBS,endowments for arts/humanities,neighborhood reinvestment corp,corp for national community service.Some of SEC,FCC,DOT,DOJ,DOD.I am sure I missed some,but tsquare's estimate of 90% I think is pretty close.
Bravo, well done!
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