FAA Shutdown
08-02-2011 | 11:53 AM
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Where do we find such men (and women)!?! 
Giving up $1.2 billion in tax revenues over $16.5 million in subsidies. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I know, the principle of the thing......... I could go on but it just doesn't seem to be worth it....
Denny
Giving up $1.2 billion in tax revenues over $16.5 million in subsidies. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I know, the principle of the thing......... I could go on but it just doesn't seem to be worth it....Denny
08-02-2011 | 12:14 PM
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If it needs demonstrating, then people haven't been paying attention. 90% of the federal government is a waste of money. Probably more. Nothing will change, and as the fearless leader says, the can has once again been kicked down the road. I'm sure the libs are ecstatic.
08-02-2011 | 12:45 PM
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Agreed.
Goverment throws away huge amounts of money. I dont no specifics about the FAA but I have worked the last three years for the state of NC and wow! Thier is no wonder why the NC state goverment is broke, so much pointless spending. Everything is done through a long buerecratic BS process that cost more in both time and money.
I dont want to see anyone loose jobs, but, I believe the FAA has a lot of fat that needs to be trimmed.
Goverment throws away huge amounts of money. I dont no specifics about the FAA but I have worked the last three years for the state of NC and wow! Thier is no wonder why the NC state goverment is broke, so much pointless spending. Everything is done through a long buerecratic BS process that cost more in both time and money.
I dont want to see anyone loose jobs, but, I believe the FAA has a lot of fat that needs to be trimmed.
08-02-2011 | 01:16 PM
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08-02-2011 | 02:06 PM
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The faa furloughees have not caused the earth to explode and crash into the sun. What value do they add when they are at work besides being a conduit through which money is funnelled to various entities? Do they actually physically pull out wrenches and fix anything? Or do they say "fix that."
And I think the FAA is actually one of the more valueable pieces of the government gravy train.
And I think the FAA is actually one of the more valueable pieces of the government gravy train.
08-02-2011 | 02:17 PM
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The faa furloughees have not caused the earth to explode and crash into the sun. What value do they add when they are at work besides being a conduit through which money is funnelled to various entities? Do they actually physically pull out wrenches and fix anything? Or do they say "fix that."
And I think the FAA is actually one of the more valueable pieces of the government gravy train.
And I think the FAA is actually one of the more valueable pieces of the government gravy train.
For example - some of the technicians making sure that those ILSs and other NAVAIDs that you depend on are out of a job, or the test pilots/technicians who are working up in ACY on technologies to make your job safer and more efficient; and it looks like they will be for another month. Those approximately 4000 employees are about 10% of the work force.
Your statements show that you don't know what the FAA does in the big picture and basically think that everyone that works for the FAA is one of the despised FSDOs or Safety Inspectors riding in your jumpseat. Couldn't be further from the truth. Could we do without as many "managers"? Probably - but what large organization couldn't?
USMCFLYR
08-02-2011 | 02:46 PM
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odd that Delta is strongly denying involvement, as of several days ago, yet the story wont go away.
Reid Says FAA Shutdown Will Continue; Blames House, Delta Airlines : The Two-Way : NPR
Reid Says FAA Shutdown Will Continue; Blames House, Delta Airlines : The Two-Way : NPR
08-02-2011 | 02:58 PM
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08-02-2011 | 04:17 PM
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Come on scambo - those comments are just misguided.
For example - some of the technicians making sure that those ILSs and other NAVAIDs that you depend on are out of a job, or the test pilots/technicians who are working up in ACY on technologies to make your job safer and more efficient; and it looks like they will be for another month. Those approximately 4000 employees are about 10% of the work force.
Your statements show that you don't know what the FAA does in the big picture and basically think that everyone that works for the FAA is one of the despised FSDOs or Safety Inspectors riding in your jumpseat. Couldn't be further from the truth. Could we do without as many "managers"? Probably - but what large organization couldn't?
USMCFLYR
For example - some of the technicians making sure that those ILSs and other NAVAIDs that you depend on are out of a job, or the test pilots/technicians who are working up in ACY on technologies to make your job safer and more efficient; and it looks like they will be for another month. Those approximately 4000 employees are about 10% of the work force.
Your statements show that you don't know what the FAA does in the big picture and basically think that everyone that works for the FAA is one of the despised FSDOs or Safety Inspectors riding in your jumpseat. Couldn't be further from the truth. Could we do without as many "managers"? Probably - but what large organization couldn't?
USMCFLYR
USMCFLYR;
You are talking to the wrong guy. I, like you, spent a good long time in gov't service (29 years mil active and reserve) and as an aerospace test contractor working with and for the DoD and NASA. It has been my experience that the FAA is always playing catch up technically. Why is it that RNAV RNP took so long to get approved by the FAA? Because they were steam guage 727 brains. The FAA doesn't develop things they contract it out and then question the product.
I dont despise the FAA, one of my best friends is an FAA SES and another is a Mx inspector (fulltime FAA) an old bud is an FAA flight check pilot.
I dont have a thing at all against the FAA. I am just speaking truthfully about what I have personally witnessed and been party to.
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