King Air job
10-05-2006, 02:54 PM
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King Air job
I have the oppurtunity to fly a King Air B200 for a private owner (part 91) from the right seat, atleast for a while. I only have 300 hours and only 35hrs multi. I've heard mixed reviews on logging PIC BE200 time when I go for an interview with an airline. I know it's legal and it's a quick way to multi-turbine time. This wouldn't be a one time deal, it's a job that I'll be logging 5-6 hrs a week... any advice would be great. Over time I'll know the plane inside and out, so would an interview frown upon logging King Air time with my low (actually none) experience level?
10-05-2006, 03:25 PM
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I've never heard that man. Go for it. I fly a Merlin IIIB on the side for the bossman with him. But I'm actually PIC in the left seat and he works with me on instructing me ect in the aircraft. It's a great opportunity you and I have. PIC twin turbo is PIC twin turbo. It's a PT-6 just liek the ones chyenne, Caravans, and T-6 military trainers. The only real diff is the horsepower between them so far as I know. I fly a garrett engine not at pratt though so there is difference. You'd be a fool to not take advantage of it. Any expierence you can built in a pressurised, complex, twin turboprop is worth getting if you're at 300hrs. It's all a learning deal. You have to learn somewhere at sometime. You might as well make it here and now. Hands down go for it 
10-05-2006, 03:32 PM
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I'd say you can't beat the experience, but I ask this: How is it PIC time if you're in the right seat?
Be sure you have your high-performance and high-altitude endorsements; I'm pretty sure you can't act as PIC in that airplane without them. Also, if you're claiming time in the airplane, know the aircraft systems very well - you may be asked about them at an interview down the road.
Be sure you have your high-performance and high-altitude endorsements; I'm pretty sure you can't act as PIC in that airplane without them. Also, if you're claiming time in the airplane, know the aircraft systems very well - you may be asked about them at an interview down the road.
10-05-2006, 03:37 PM
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You still here!!!!
Man, go fly that King Air 200 and get your ME turboprop time.
Next thing you know, you'll have enough time to get on with the large Cargo companies or enough time to get you considered by the Majors.
atp
Man, go fly that King Air 200 and get your ME turboprop time.
Next thing you know, you'll have enough time to get on with the large Cargo companies or enough time to get you considered by the Majors.
atp
10-05-2006, 04:28 PM
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You dont need a type rating for the king air 200. However....you do the the high altitude endorsement. Without that you cannot log PIC time in the plane. Also, if you are just sitting right seat and he is flying, it's not legal for you to log it PIC. You can't log it SIC because an SIC is not needed in a Kingair 200. If this other guy flying is a MEI than that would be great because you can log it as dual recieved and PIC. That way he can log it too. It still is a good opportunity anyway.
10-05-2006, 04:35 PM
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Right seat would only be until I got a feel for the plane. The pilot I will be flying with is not an MEI or even an instructor for that matter. I'm not one of those guys who will log .2 for touching the controls. I can wait until he puts me left seat. It's nice when you know a guy who has 10k+ hours who can care less about who is PIC. Networking is the golden ticket.
Anyways, I'll go for it. Thanks for the advice.
Anyways, I'll go for it. Thanks for the advice.
10-05-2006, 04:42 PM
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As long as you are the sole manipulator of the controls of the airplane, for which you are rated if you have a multi-engine rating, you can log PIC time regardless of which of the two pilot seats you are sitting in. A king air 200 doesn't require a type rating. The only hang-ups you'll have is if you go to an airline interview. They'll want you to explain how you got PIC time in a turboprop with so little time (this happened to me exactly). The correct answer to this question is you logged the time under the 'sole-manipulator' clause, but you were not the PIC as is defined in 14 CFR Part 1. The FAA says you can log it, so log it. Most folks in the 135 and corporate scene won't pitch a fit over it because they did it too, and they know you can legally log it.
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10-05-2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iflyjets4food
The only hang-ups you'll have is if you go to an airline interview. They'll want you to explain how you got PIC time in a turboprop with so little time (this happened to me exactly). The correct answer to this question is you logged the time under the 'sole-manipulator' clause, but you were not the PIC as is defined in 14 CFR Part 1
10-05-2006, 05:52 PM
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Or you could just say you were the one flying the airplane. In the merlin I had 10 whole hours when we got ramped checked and he asked me how on earth I managed to be the pilot of it with only 10 hrs in it. I just said I was rated and I was legal.
10-05-2006, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fly4food84
Thanks for the post. What kind of response did you get from the interviewer when you gave him that answer?
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