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4V14T0R 05-08-2019 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by Xjrstreetcar (Post 2816251)
All for keeping or increasing the barriers to entry, but the rigor and aptitude required doesn't quite compare to other well paying professions, such as medicine, engineering, or law. Retard certainly is a stretch though, and boorish.



You’re selling yourself short. Try and view it from a layman’s perspective just as you are those other professions.


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4V14T0R 05-08-2019 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by ICUROOK (Post 2816261)
You say that, but in the U.S. the Majors are still hiring based on how much time you spend down at the local soup kitchen and what your GPA was 20 years ago and not on your flying experience.



There’s so much good experience out there it is their way of differentiating.


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crewdawg 05-08-2019 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by ICUROOK (Post 2816261)
You say that, but in the U.S. the Majors are still hiring based on how much time you spend down at the local soup kitchen and what your GPA was 20 years ago and not on your flying experience.

Based on my experience, I don't think that has much weight with respect to hiring.

Joachim 05-08-2019 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2816304)
Based on my experience, I don't think that has much weight with respect to hiring.

No but failing on NDB arcs as a teenager 20 years ago does...

Let’s see... widebody check, tpic looks good, 5 initials without a hiccup, nice job on the GPA, UH OHH... what is this? A failed check ride in a Cherokee during the Clinton administration!?! What do you have to say for yourself?

4V14T0R 05-08-2019 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 2816315)
No but failing on NDB arcs as a teenager 20 years ago does...

Let’s see... widebody check, tpic looks good, 5 initials without a hiccup, nice job on the GPA, UH OHH... what is this? A failed check ride in a Cherokee during the Clinton administration!?! What do you have to say for yourself?



If that’s the only hiccup then you should have no problem.


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GogglesPisano 05-08-2019 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 2816202)
Well said. I think we (as a profession, not me) hide behind hats and double breasted jackets to distract from the fact that our job is doable by any retard with the ability to pay for training.

Judging by the number of people who start out in flight training, and who eventually make it all the way to a top-tier job, I'd say your characterization of our profession and the talent required is way off the mark.

There are quite a few who don't make it to a dream job -- and it's not all luck.

GogglesPisano 05-08-2019 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by ICUROOK (Post 2816261)
You say that, but in the U.S. the Majors are still hiring based on how much time you spend down at the local soup kitchen and what your GPA was 20 years ago and not on your flying experience.

The flying experience is a requisite. But it's a minimum. Seriously, what's the difference between 6,000 hrs and 8,000 hrs in terms of what an applicant brings to the table?

Working in management, volunteering, academics -- that's what sets applicants apart. Not hanging out in the left seat year after year after year doing nothing else.

Iceberg 05-08-2019 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 2816202)
Well said. I think we (as a profession, not me) hide behind hats and double breasted jackets to distract from the fact that our job is doable by any retard with the ability to pay for training.

I think you forget that everyone you work with has successfully completed a lot of training and has a lot of experience. There are plenty of pilots that don’t make it to this level. You just don’t see them because of where you are. A lot goes into getting where we are, and it takes knowledge, drive, perseverance, and a work ethic to get qualified. You are trusted by how many hundreds of people on your plane each day you fly. Don’t forget how many are on the other aircraft in your vicinity, under the routes you fly, and waiting at home for your passengers. This is not a “any one can do this” type of job, and you are doing yourself and the rest of us a disservice by saying so. I think you deserve a little more self respect.

TiredSoul 05-08-2019 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2816355)

Working in management, volunteering, academics -- that's what sets applicants apart. .

And AGAIN....none of that required to be able to do this job..sufficiently safe.
It’s all just HR mumbo jumbo and make-me-feel-good corporate branding.

“Thank you for sharing your travel experience with us”

Oh please...

4V14T0R 05-08-2019 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2816399)
And AGAIN....none of that required to be able to do this job..sufficiently safe.

It’s all just HR mumbo jumbo and make-me-feel-good corporate branding.



“Thank you for sharing your travel experience with us”



Oh please...



While true, it’s their game. You either play or you don’t. If you choose the latter you waste a lot of your income and seniority potential.


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