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throttleweenie 05-31-2012 08:16 PM



Originally Posted by throttleweenie (Post 1202036)
I do know their circumstances. I ride with them. And I donate to more charities and do more volunteer work than all of them that I know combined. And I used to be an aircraft mechanic, I made more than any ramper I know, and after I paid my obligations, I didn't have enough money to afford any of the bikes in the 401(k) parking area.

Nice toys, by the way. Wish I could afford all that plus my retirement.

T/W

Ramp rats could make a career out of being baggage handlers and now they are making minimum wage while having a wife and kid and mortgage and car payments (supposedly). How can they possibly survive under these conditions?
And Harley payments!

TW

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LineHolder 06-01-2012 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by Stratosphere (Post 1199774)
but I am 48 and single with no kids and I have a Charger SRT-8 and a 2012 Harley Ultra Limited

You better have some toys or you're not getting any action south of 48 years old!:eek: Try getting a boat, the women will show up half naked every time!

gloopy 06-01-2012 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by cherokeedriver (Post 1202077)
Ramp rats could make a career out of being baggage handlers and now they are making minimum wage while having a wife and kid and mortgage and car payments (supposedly). How can they possibly survive under these conditions?

Lots of people spend everything they have as soon as they get it, plus spend every bit of credit they get their hands on as soon as they get it. Many of those people are airline pilots too though.

DeadHead 06-01-2012 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1202630)
Lots of people spend everything they have as soon as they get it, plus spend every bit of credit they get their hands on as soon as they get it. Many of those people are airline pilots too though.

I used to know a first year regional FO who leased a brand new BMW 325i.
I think he said that his payments were around $800/month.
Never really understood why you would spend half a month's paycheck on a car, but to each his own, not really my business.
You don't really know a person's personal finance situation, and you probably shouldn't assume it either way.

gloopy 06-01-2012 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1202646)
I used to know a first year regional FO who leased a brand new BMW 325i.
I think he said that his payments were around $800/month.
Never really understood why you would spend half a month's paycheck on a car, but to each his own, not really my business.
You don't really know a person's personal finance situation, and you probably shouldn't assume it either way.

To some degree, yes. I know a pilot (major airline Captain) that sweats his budget. But he has a very expensive special needs child. Other than that he drives cheap used cars and lives in a modest middle class house and I've never seen him really splurge on anything other than a nice dinner out once in a while. I know another pilot (very senior major airline LCA making big money) that is 2 paychecks away from liquidation at all times due to rediculous personal choices trying to run with a much higher class than he can. And I know a ton of pilots that feed the college machine no matter the cost, including insanely expensive degrees in completely worthless "fields" with zero (zero) ROI for their progeny, plus brand new cars, spending money and single occupancy appartments for "daddy's little girl" just to extend their childhoods and live vicariously through them or whatever.

I agree its not directly our business. But we would be foolish to ignore some of the underlying causes of our own collective short term thinking that manifest itself into a major weekness that our managements are acutely aware of. They know how we think and what drives us and why better than we do much of the time, and that puts us at a disadvantage big time. Our collective financial ineptitude directly serves to weaken our collective financial potential. When you can't say no, when you can't walk away and simply have to take the deal, you will get a worse deal. Every. Singe. Time.

Dashdog 06-01-2012 12:22 PM

I guess this thread has run it's course. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Someone please just mention Gojets and put this thing out of its misery.

throttleweenie 06-01-2012 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by LineHolder (Post 1202382)
You better have some toys or you're not getting any action south of 48 years old!:eek: Try getting a boat, the women will show up half naked every time!

No wonder I don't have a boat! I'm north of (as in, past) 48 and my wife shows fully naked half the time. She ain't 57 either.

And she owns a two-wheeled, V-powered toy. Not a Harley; a Ducati. Red. Both of them. Real red. Like her hair.

TW

DeadHead 06-01-2012 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Dashdog (Post 1202767)
I guess this thread has run it's course. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Someone please just mention Gojets and put this thing out of its misery.

This thread was enjoyable until the tools started showing up.
:rolleyes:

(Not referring to you/just in general)

IBPilot 06-01-2012 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1202646)
I used to know a first year regional FO who leased a brand new BMW 325i.
I think he said that his payments were around $800/month.
Never really understood why you would spend half a month's paycheck on a car, but to each his own, not really my business.
You don't really know a person's personal finance situation, and you probably shouldn't assume it either way.


ha ha I always loved flying with a first year regional FO who complains that he makes no money and can't afford food on overnights on regional wages, yet drives a brand new BMW, has a brand new Bose noise canceling headset, brand new leather flight kit, and drops 2 trips a month to non rev all over the world....oh and an iPad/pod/phone!


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