Tool of the day
10-01-2012, 06:24 AM
#2871
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Posts: 216
Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
One guys decides to slow down and go around a buildup and everyone else inbound to EWR has to enter holding? Seems unlikely. I, on the other hand, hate flying with guys who insist on flying through big puffy clouds while still up in the teens just because they're "not painting"' while all the people in the back get the snot knocked out of them.
It's not about being instrument rated, it's about doing a little extra not to scare the crap out of the people riding behind you who pay your salary. Everyone here can fly through a cloud as well as you can, superstar. That's not the point.
It's not about being instrument rated, it's about doing a little extra not to scare the crap out of the people riding behind you who pay your salary. Everyone here can fly through a cloud as well as you can, superstar. That's not the point.
10-01-2012, 01:22 PM
#2872
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 737
Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
What gets me is the guy who will spin the heading selector and say "I'm gonna cheat a bit".
When he says the cheat word, he's saying "don't bother asking for a deviation, it's going to be negligible."
Do you ask for a deviation for a 100 yard swerve, every time?
10-01-2012, 05:33 PM
#2873
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
The PNCL guys 2 days ago with the stuck mic coming out of JFK about 4pm. Not only did you get the mic stuck on Ground, Tower, And departure, but we enjoyed hearing how you felt about AA on ground, about how you can change the takeoff weight and get different N1 settings from the fedec when on tower and your mythology to doing climb checks on departure freq. I am sure that go around on tower, and the stop on take offs when you were on departures were very appreciated.
22min http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kj...2012-1930Z.mp3
22min http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kj...2012-1930Z.mp3
Last edited by lakehouse; 10-01-2012 at 05:50 PM.
10-01-2012, 05:35 PM
#2874
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Originally Posted by 1900Drver
288 pages of pure gold!
I didn't go through all of them so I don't know if these have been covered. Some of these are aircraft specific, but I'm sure everyone can relate:
The tool that asks if I'm going to be serving drinks on this flight.
The tool that talks on his cell during the briefing
The tool FA on Expressjet who, because our airline doesn't fly jets, leaned into the cockpit and said to the Captain, "I guess they're just letting anyone jumpseat these days"
The ULTRA tool SkyWest pilot who gets on our company frequency, hears the animal noises and says, "This is why you guys don't get jobs at SkyWest."
I didn't go through all of them so I don't know if these have been covered. Some of these are aircraft specific, but I'm sure everyone can relate:
The tool that asks if I'm going to be serving drinks on this flight.
The tool that talks on his cell during the briefing
The tool FA on Expressjet who, because our airline doesn't fly jets, leaned into the cockpit and said to the Captain, "I guess they're just letting anyone jumpseat these days"
The ULTRA tool SkyWest pilot who gets on our company frequency, hears the animal noises and says, "This is why you guys don't get jobs at SkyWest."
10-02-2012, 07:01 AM
#2876
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,420
Originally Posted by jheath
I think the most pervasive useless PA-ism has got to be visibility. I hear it all the time from guys who give an otherwise concise, informative PA. "Weather at the destination, calm winds, clear skies, good visibility, a temperature of XX degrees..."
I get that we're just reading it right off the ATIS, but do you think the average passenger gives two craps about the visibility? Unless it's a CATII down to minimums it probably won't affect their drive home. I feel like if you're going to give them the visibility you might as well tell them the altimeter setting because they probably care about as much. Most captains I've mentioned it to just laugh and agree that they have no idea why they say it.
"At this time" is the other one that drives me nuts. The airport is the only place you'll hear it and you can seriously hear it 9 times before the door closes. Have you ever sat down at home and said, "Alright kids, at this time we're going to eat dinner." "At this time, I'd like to ask that you take out the trash."
I get that we're just reading it right off the ATIS, but do you think the average passenger gives two craps about the visibility? Unless it's a CATII down to minimums it probably won't affect their drive home. I feel like if you're going to give them the visibility you might as well tell them the altimeter setting because they probably care about as much. Most captains I've mentioned it to just laugh and agree that they have no idea why they say it.
"At this time" is the other one that drives me nuts. The airport is the only place you'll hear it and you can seriously hear it 9 times before the door closes. Have you ever sat down at home and said, "Alright kids, at this time we're going to eat dinner." "At this time, I'd like to ask that you take out the trash."
10-02-2012, 07:06 AM
#2877
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,722
Originally Posted by gonyon
I give a diff briefing if there is a js'ng or deadheading pilot in the back. I figure they might be interested in a few points that the regular pax are not. hope that doesn't make me a tool.
When I see we have a DH crew in back, in uniform, I be sure my PA includes the fact that...
"These extra crew members you see in the cabin both used to work at NASA, in the mapping dept. and they can identify every city, town, lake and National Park, from the air. Be sure to ask them, "What lake is THAT?" or Where are we now?" as often as you like, they Really Love the challenge!"
10-02-2012, 07:31 AM
#2878
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: 777
Posts: 495
Originally Posted by gonyon
I give a diff briefing if there is a js'ng or deadheading pilot in the back. I figure they might be interested in a few points that the regular pax are not. hope that doesn't make me a tool.
10-02-2012, 07:53 AM
#2879
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: MD-11 FO
Posts: 2,180
Originally Posted by Timbo
When I see we have a DH crew in back, in uniform, I be sure my PA includes the fact that...
"These extra crew members you see in the cabin both used to work at NASA, in the mapping dept. and they can identify every city, town, lake and National Park, from the air. Be sure to ask them, "What lake is THAT?" or Where are we now?" as often as you like, they Really Love the challenge!"
"These extra crew members you see in the cabin both used to work at NASA, in the mapping dept. and they can identify every city, town, lake and National Park, from the air. Be sure to ask them, "What lake is THAT?" or Where are we now?" as often as you like, they Really Love the challenge!"
10-02-2012, 08:33 AM
#2880
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Posts: 7,722
And on taxi in, after one particularly -stiff- landing...
"Ladies and Gentlemen, about that landing, it's not MY fault, and it's not YOUR fault, that was the Asphalt!"
"Ladies and Gentlemen, about that landing, it's not MY fault, and it's not YOUR fault, that was the Asphalt!"
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