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OscartheGrouch 04-19-2012 05:17 PM

Here is the newest tool factor. If you are old and wrinkly with a hair dye procedure that doesn't match............you are a tool. Look and act your age. We had a knickname for one .......Disco Bob! His hair didn't even look like a natural color.

The Oscar

NuGuy 04-19-2012 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1172013)
Where was that?

We had a Crew Bus sideswipe a Porshe Boxster in ATL once. Car sat there for a couple of weeks.

Local strip mall. It wasn't even a tight spot. Just crunch, and keeps pulling in.

Hops out, hollering at herself, looks at the damage, and wanders off.

In retrospect, maybe she was looking for a piece of paper, so she could write her insurance and contact info, and leave it for the other driver,

Yea, that's the ticket....

Maybe I'm getting older, but it sure seems like there are more d-bags in the world today.

3 warning signs you are getting older (shamelessly cribbed from someone else):

1) You wake up hurting because "you slept wrong"
2) You use any compound that could be refered to as an "ointment"
3) The d-bag at the audio store says the reason your CD player sounds broken is because you listen to crappy music.


Nu

LNL76 04-19-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch (Post 1172213)
Here is the newest tool factor. If you are old and wrinkly with a hair dye procedure that doesn't match............you are a tool. Look and act your age. We had a knickname for one .......Disco Bob! His hair didn't even look like a natural color.

The Oscar


Long live gray hair! :)

Timbo 04-19-2012 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch (Post 1172206)
My thought process on the FFDO program was anyone who applied in the first six months should be disqualified. Too eager and there has to be a mental issues involved in being too eager.:eek:

The Oscar


I've often felt the same! Thanks for bringing that up. It's like the old saying, "Any one who wants the job, isn't qualified to have it!"

acl65pilot 04-19-2012 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1172034)
My car has gotten scraped multiple times on the back left bumper with people pulling into parking spots there... plus a couple obvious crew bag drag marks with people squeezing by.

TOOL.

Don't park so close to the Bus Stop! :D

scambo1 04-19-2012 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 1172218)
Long live gray hair! :)


Combovers w t f, get a haircut.

acl65pilot 04-19-2012 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by coflyr (Post 1172123)
Haha I'm loving this thread.

Now I know I can be a tool on the PA. Its normally on day 3 leg 4, and my mind starts drifting off somehwere else. Then I forget what I was saying so I usually wrap it up with a " once again welcome aboard ."

But the best I ever saw was the captain who for an entire month would do a very professional sounding PA, just to follow it up by repeating the WHOLE thing in Italian!!!! TOOL!!!


We have a few pilots that will do an English and then a LOD PA. (Language of Destination) Have had them done in Italian, German, Russian, Spanish and Swedish.

Sink r8 04-19-2012 05:33 PM

Guess if the flight was not to/from italy, the CA was a tool.

If the flight was to/from Italy, then I think coflyer accidentally tried to open a can of Tool on someone else, and spilled it on himself.

coflyr 04-19-2012 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1172226)
We have a few pilots that will do an English and then a LOD PA. (Language of Destination) Have had them done in Italian, German, Russian, Spanish and Swedish.

That's understandable. But when you're flying an RJ in and out of Denver, and primarily to the plains states, I'd bet that no one on board would understand one word of Italian. Maybe "ciao" when he'd sign off. And now after the JB meltdown they'd all probably grab their bags and get off.

cfitstew 04-19-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch (Post 1172213)
Here is the newest tool factor. If you are old and wrinkly with a hair dye procedure that doesn't match............you are a tool. Look and act your age. We had a knickname for one .......Disco Bob! His hair didn't even look like a natural color.

The Oscar

Yeah, but Disco Bob was a blast to fly with. One of the wildest overnights I ever had at SWA was at the Lighthouse with Disco Bob and Turkey Taylor and about 20 or so F/As (myself being the only hairy leg one there).

acl65pilot 04-19-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by coflyr (Post 1172241)
That's understandable. But when you're flying an RJ in and out of Denver, and primarily to the plains states, I'd bet that no one on board would understand one word of Italian. Maybe "ciao" when he'd sign off. And now after the JB meltdown they'd all probably grab their bags and get off.

Quite true. I just assumed someone was doing that on an International flight, not a RJ flight. Ugh.

galaxy flyer 04-19-2012 05:48 PM

The captain at EAL I used to get stuck with--hand flew the entire leg even while eating the crew meal. Yes, we get 'em in prehistory.

GF

acl65pilot 04-19-2012 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 1172261)
The captain at EAL I used to get stuck with--hand flew the entire leg even while eating the crew meal. Yes, we get 'em in prehistory.

GF


I flew with someone like that in my previous life.

WingLeveler 04-19-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1172008)
To the individual who pulled into a parking spot and creamed the truck next to them, got out, looked at the damage, then wandered off.

This tools for you...

Nu

And also to the guy/girl who walked by my car in the DTW employee lot. Your fat a$% swiped my side-view mirror, broke it off and left it hanging by the power cable. Thanks, I only used it ALL of the time while driving to and from the airport.

WL

nwaf16dude 04-19-2012 06:01 PM

Flew with a guy a few weeks ago that insisted on hand-flying up to the hand-off to the second ATL center frequency every leg, which just happens to be the perfect way to maximize the workload on the FO.

Not that the job is that hard..., but it was kind of a pain, relatively speaking.

OscartheGrouch 04-19-2012 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by cfitstew (Post 1172256)
Yeah, but Disco Bob was a blast to fly with. One of the wildest overnights I ever had at SWA was at the Lighthouse with Disco Bob and Turkey Taylor and about 20 or so F/As (myself being the only hairy leg one there).

I didn't say that Disco wasn't a nice guy, I said his hair color was unnatural and didn't match his age. I brought this up because I saw another over 60 guy this morning and his hair color was..........well........not natural. Gray hair is dignified and goes with the wrinkles.:rolleyes:

The Oscar

IBPilot 04-19-2012 06:11 PM

Any 3 year RJ FO that thinks any 6 plus year RJ Captain or 747 Captain over age 60 is "hogging their seat" and "there must be something wrong with those guys."

Bucking Bar 04-19-2012 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 1172146)
...on the erj and obviously only I and the captain were in front, while suddenly a stench circulates inside the flight deck. I know it didn't come from me, so i look at him and he acts like he smells nothing!!! MAN UP and claim it, especially if it makes your eyes water !

Does tool self disclosure work the same way as it does with the FAA? Do we get immunity for TSRS / ASAP?

Dexter 04-19-2012 06:15 PM

The captain that wears a headlamp at night.

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Bucking Bar 04-19-2012 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch (Post 1172292)
I didn't say that Disco wasn't a nice guy, I said his hair color was unnatural and didn't match his age. I brought this up because I saw another over 60 guy this morning and his hair color was..........well........not natural. Gray hair is dignified and goes with the wrinkles.:rolleyes:

The Oscar

Hate to turn this into a scope debate, but I wasn't planning on being gray and a First Officer.

Gray hair is dignified and looks more appropriate on a Captain.

forgot to bid 04-19-2012 06:24 PM

Previous airline:

The Mensa society guy who does the entire interior preflight... his way. Whether you did it or not he does it again his way. While I was on the walk around I was startled by the spoilers raising, never seen that before? Then I come back into the cockpit and he informs me he called maintenance because the HYD SOV wouldn't close when he pulled the fire handle.

You pulled the what!?

The fire handles. When you pull the fire handles you should get a HYD SOV CLSD EICAS message and it didn't come up. He was right, it actually had failed. But man I was perplexed, why did you pull the handle?!

Maintenance gets on board, he explains it to them. They're confused, you pulled the what? So he explains it to them and explains how the airplane works. Lead balloon CRM there.

So they go outside and call their supervisor but then one of them runs over to the next plane and asks "you guys pull fire handles in your preflight checks?!?" No. No we don't. The supervisor comes on board, hangs out while his guys are pulling panels off and in a professional way he starts with some probing questions. As he can tell the Captain is ultra sensitive about Captains authority. He asks how he figured out the HYD SOV was closed. He repeats his flow and pulls the handle. At that moment the other mechanics were elbow deep into the hydraulic junk and a lever moved and about injured the mechanic or worse. Mechanic goes ballistic and an airplane full of 50 passengers got to hear what the mechanic was thinking thanks to the supervisors walkie-talkie. He was actually yelling at the supervisor though. The supervisor just calmly radios back "it wasn't me, it was the Captain..." To which 50 passengers got to hear that their Captain wasn't fit to fly via many many colorful metaphors.

That was the start of the trip.

Between being unable to get him through customs without an interrogation to his hand flying at altitude with the FD's off, I have to say, I was worn out.

forgot to bid 04-19-2012 06:38 PM

Previous corporate:

New Captain hires his wife as the cabin attendant, when they go to an overnight they dump the FO (who is really the only person in charge and knows what's going on) and they take the rental car for the entire time they're there.

Same guy, boss says he wants to leave at 2. He and his wife show up at... 2. Boss showed up earlier.

Same guy, charter company will provide crew meals if asked. Decent corporate crew meal stuff, but really a nice sandwich box. He orders filet Mignon, ****ed when they don't deliver it.

Different guy, teaching spoon fed ground school at corporate charter operation. Asks airline pilot turned corporate pilot, when do you not have to have a destination alternate? Pilot answers, well, 1-2-3 rule and gets interrupted. "Welcome to the big boys kid, we don't use the 1-2-3 rule," says salty know it all.

They didn't there, tis true, but Delta uses the 1-2-3 rule for IFR/NO ALTN required on domestic flight ops and I would consider it to be a "big boy." :D

NERD 04-19-2012 06:40 PM

I am truly honored by the participation in the thread I started. Have wanted to do this for years, but thought some of our thinner skinned brethren would be offended. Because regardless of political, religious, or our many other differences we are a lot alike and can find common ground in some areas. It's the 10% that make the tool catagory, whether its being a ******* or just wierd. If it were not for them what/who would we talk about enroute, over beers, or here. So, tonights tools are to the two pilots in uniform at the Bloomington, Mn TGIFs having dinner in the bar. Oh, did I forget both wearing long sleeve shirts and the capts hair slicked back like one of the characters in Grease.

forgot to bid 04-19-2012 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1172315)
I am truly honored by the participation in the thread I started. Have wanted to do this for years, but thought some of our thinner skinned brethren would be offended. Because regardless of political, religious, or our many other differences we are a lot alike and can find common ground in some areas. It's the 10% that make the tool catagory, whether its being a ******* or just wierd. If it were not for them what/who would we talk about enroute, over beers, or here. So, tonights tools are to the two pilots in uniform at the Bloomington, Mn TGIFs having dinner in the bar. Oh, did I forget both wearing long sleeve shirts and the capts hair slicked back like one of the characters in Grease.

Positive they're airline? Do they have the epaulets on?

scambo1 04-19-2012 06:44 PM

In uniform having dinner in the bar?

Smart...not

NERD 04-19-2012 06:53 PM

Oh yeah. And IDs to boot. Must be some kind of freight dogs, as the waiter says they've been here all week. It's a good look and the chicks dig it.


QUOTE=forgot to bid;1172317]Positive they're airline? Do they have the epaulets on?[/QUOTE]

FIIGMO 04-19-2012 06:54 PM

Capt Ugly, was by far the ugliest female on earth. But as a new and happy FO on the Brazilla for a now defunct WestAir I was happy to be moving up. Third turn of the day SBA-LAX. She got hungry. Decided it was time for lunch on a 20 minute turn. She comes flying up the stairs right before door closure on a 90 degree summer day with a steaming container of brussell sprouts and baked salmon! TOOL!!!:eek:

newKnow 04-19-2012 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1172304)
Previous airline:

The Mensa society guy who does the entire interior preflight... his way. Whether you did it or not he does it again his way. While I was on the walk around I was startled by the spoilers raising, never seen that before? Then I come back into the cockpit and he informs me he called maintenance because the HYD SOV wouldn't close when he pulled the fire handle.

You pulled the what!?

The fire handles. When you pull the fire handles you should get a HYD SOV CLSD EICAS message and it didn't come up. He was right, it actually had failed. But man I was perplexed, why did you pull the handle?!

Maintenance gets on board, he explains it to them. They're confused, you pulled the what? So he explains it to them and explains how the airplane works. Lead balloon CRM there.

So they go outside and call their supervisor but then one of them runs over to the next plane and asks "you guys pull fire handles in your preflight checks?!?" No. No we don't. The supervisor comes on board, hangs out while his guys are pulling panels off and in a professional way he starts with some probing questions. As he can tell the Captain is ultra sensitive about Captains authority. He asks how he figured out the HYD SOV was closed. He repeats his flow and pulls the handle. At that moment the other mechanics were elbow deep into the hydraulic junk and a lever moved and about injured the mechanic or worse. Mechanic goes ballistic and an airplane full of 50 passengers got to hear what the mechanic was thinking thanks to the supervisors walkie-talkie. He was actually yelling at the supervisor though. The supervisor just calmly radios back "it wasn't me, it was the Captain..." To which 50 passengers got to hear that their Captain wasn't fit to fly via many many colorful metaphors.

That was the start of the trip.

Between being unable to get him through customs without an interrogation to his hand flying at altitude with the FD's off, I have to say, I was worn out.

Dude. Even your serious stories are hilarious! :D

newKnow 04-19-2012 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1172320)
Oh yeah. And IDs to boot. Must be some kind of freight dogs, as the waiter says they've been here all week. It's a good look and the chicks dig it.


QUOTE=forgot to bid;1172317]Positive they're airline? Do they have the epaulets on?

[/QUOTE]

So, are you saying the pilot uniform look gets play in TGIF? What kind of chick does it attract?

From what I've seen in TGIF, it's best to go in shorts and a t-shirt. :D

NERD 04-19-2012 07:10 PM

Depends on the TGIF. Some, I'm positive that Narita whale capt sheik would work. You know the look. Members Only jacket with running shoes or if feeling really sexy some top siders.

QUOTE=newKnow;117232/QUOTE]

So, are you saying the pilot uniform look gets play in TGIF? What kind of chick does it attract?

From what I've seen in TGIF, it's best to go in shorts and a t-shirt. :D[/QUOTE]

Boomer 04-19-2012 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1172304)
The Mensa society guy who does the entire interior preflight...

Touching anything while MX is elbows deep in the plane's guts... incredibly stupid.

Just the kind of common sense you'd expect from the mensa guy.

Boomer 04-19-2012 07:19 PM

Tool = The guy that insists you fold the release (loadslip, manifest, whatever) just right so it fits tightly between the thrust levers and backup AI. I call him Captain Origami.

xjcaptain 04-19-2012 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1172285)
Flew with a guy a few weeks ago that insisted on hand-flying up to the hand-off to the second ATL center frequency every leg, which just happens to be the perfect way to maximize the workload on the FO.

Not that the job is that hard..., but it was kind of a pain, relatively speaking.

Oh my god....a pilot who actually FLEW the aircraft!!!! Kinda sad when people think that is a problem...Too many butting pushing "Tools" in my opinion.

scambo1 04-19-2012 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1172349)
Touching anything while MX is elbows deep in the plane's guts... incredibly stupid.

Just the kind of common sense you'd expect from the mensa guy.

Did he raise the gear handle to make sure the squat switches were still working?

frmrdashtrash 04-19-2012 07:29 PM

I'll nominate myself for one. Flying with a fellow demented, Planet AD captain, I grabbed the PA just as the ramp guy was helping the FA close the door (Dash 8), and said in my best automated subway voice "PLEASE STAND BACK. DOORS ARE CLOSING". She let go of the door about the time the rampie did nearly taking him out. He managed to catch it before it hit the stops. God only knows how much damage there would have been.

As luck would have it, shortly thereafter I had a main cabin door that wouldn't open at the destination airport. Pax and crew were all liberated from the aircraft via the forward emergency exit.

80ktsClamp 04-19-2012 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by xjcaptain (Post 1172356)
Oh my god....a pilot who actually FLEW the aircraft!!!! Kinda sad when people think that is a problem...Too many butting pushing "Tools" in my opinion.

Got to agree here.... I nearly always hand fly up through 18.

It's still cool to be a good pilot. It tends to come and handy now and then.

DSRoss996 04-19-2012 07:50 PM

The tool who struts around the Eagle crew room with his College lanyard and some obscure marching band ringtone. He makes sure his ringer is full volume and doesn't answer his Bluetooth until the entire song has finished. He also wears mirrored aviators on his head.

NuGuy 04-19-2012 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1172313)
Previous corporate:

New Captain hires his wife as the cabin attendant, when they go to an overnight they dump the FO (who is really the only person in charge and knows what's going on) and they take the rental car for the entire time they're there. ...

UGH, thanks for dredging up that memory.

Anytime the CA and FA are married or dating, you know you are in for a bad, bad trip.

You can bet your sweet bippy that all the crap work that would normally be the FA's job will somehow be delegated to you, despite the fact that it's no where near your job description. Nothing is worse than hearing the CA say "hey, why don't you...."

You will bear the brunt of everything crappy that happens as Captain America tries to impress his sweetie that "he's the boss".

Yuk.

Nu

Wingtips 04-19-2012 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by DSRoss996 (Post 1172378)
The tool who struts around the Eagle crew room with his College lanyard and some obscure marching band ringtone. He makes sure his ringer is full volume and doesn't answer his Bluetooth until the entire song has finished. He also wears mirrored aviators on his head.

AHAAHHAHAHAH that guy is such an a$$ bag!!!!!

Wingtips 04-19-2012 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1172382)
UGH, thanks for dredging up that memory.

Anytime the CA and FA are married or dating, you know you are in for a bad, bad trip.

You can bet your sweet bippy that all the crap work that would normally be the FA's job will somehow be delegated to you, despite the fact that it's no where near your job description. Nothing is worse than hearing the CA say "hey, why don't you...."

You will bear the brunt of everything crappy that happens as Captain America tries to impress his sweetie that "he's the boss".

Yuk.

Nu

Anyone flown with the last EGL MIA MQ chief pilot and his super steady, gf, who also made employee of the month last winter oh so coincidentally. I see they bid lines together, wonder what they are like to fly with.


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