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Albief15 12-24-2015 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2033560)
You are correct. And... only a matter of time before some entirely legally cockpit carrying "sympathizer" brings some goodies through KCM for his friends.

FFDO fantasy heroism is fantasy.

You really don't add much value here. Even your Yeager quote is asinine. You have just enough knowledge of aviation to not know a damn thing about what 99% of the guys on here really do day to day.

For what its worth, a T-38 used to have an AOA indicator. It was a very nice visual backup to the tactile vibration the jet transmitted at various levels of AOA. The indicator in the F-15 was not used in tactical maneuvering, but was an invaluable tool in AHC and BFM instruction when I could show a pilot on tape review the energy state and AOA at various points in a maneuver or engagement.

Yeagher was made a saint by "The Right Stuff". Most who have worked with the guy will tell you he is an arrogant ass, and a good pilot. Bob Hoover is an outstanding pilot, and an ambassador for pilots everywhere. Be Bob Hoover. Wannabes worship Yeagher. Real professionals in the industry respect and emulate Hoover.

I don't know jack-**** about angioplasty, valve replacements, or other cardiac related matters. I would never attempt to substitute the books I've read, the aerospace physiology training I've done, or my experiences with friends or family for a consultation with an MD who was an expert in his field. As a pilot who has flown 36 years, including lots of time in GA, military fighter operations, and various airline types , I can tell you that the differences between the genres are deep, pronounced, and not subtle. When you start to make pronouncements and declarations about stuff you really don't understand, you reveal a brash overconfidence in your own experience and a condescending tone towards those who take their craft as seriously as you do.

If there was a nicer way to tell you ***, I'd try to do it. That's about as nicely as I can put it.

N19906 12-24-2015 08:46 PM

:rolleyes:
I've got friends working at EDW. They refer to him as "Chuck Yeager Inc." and say his family is FUBAR because of his ego.
I met "the Nose" Hoover, and had him sign some stuff at Reno. Came across as a really great, modest guy. Hope he lives forever...

Packrat 12-24-2015 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Peoloto (Post 2034213)

The last quote says it all about the FFDO "mentality."

horrido27 12-25-2015 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2034270)
The last quote says it all about the FFDO "mentality."

Or does it say more about the "SCAB" mentality...?

Always
Motch

DCA A321 FO 12-25-2015 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 2034250)
Most who have worked with the guy will tell you he is an arrogant ass, and a good pilot.

I flew him some years ago, said hello as he was deplaning, he didn't even look at me.

GucciBoy 12-25-2015 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 2031898)
Sounds like the cousin of the mainline pilot who looks at the regional guy on the jumpseat and says "So you got your stuff in with mainline? When you gonna come over?" As if it's as simple as the regional guy just walking into the chief pilot's office and saying "I'm a pilot! I'm here to fly, just point me to the gate!". After some very long 6-leg days in and out of some of the most effed up airspace in the country, it would take every fiber of my being not to come back with a doe-eyed and sarcastic "Gee mister, do you think I should!? I'm a real good pilot, honest!"


Or maybe they're just trying to be nice. Maybe they understand a lot of dudes are stuck. Maybe they're trying to make you feel like if they had anything to do with it they'd be glad to have you next to them up front. Sorry your butt hurts. Merry Christmas.


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AC560 12-25-2015 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 2034250)
Bob Hoover is an outstanding pilot, and an ambassador for pilots everywhere. Be Bob Hoover.

Plus he has really great taste when it comes to airplanes :D

mooney 12-25-2015 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2031780)
Not a flight deck issue labbats. It was w KCM line issue that pushed Skippy's button to the point indicating it was solely an issue with F/As. Not defending or condoning the behavior of the F/A. Frankly it was none of Skippy's business as he works for an airline and not for TSA which dealt with the issue in a manner they felt appropriate at the time.

The crewmwmber has every right to submit a letter of complaint to the TSA with copies to the Airline. Likewise the TSA agent has the right to submit a letter of complaint to his/her supervisor against the F/A as well.

At the end of The day, I will wager the issue took no more than 3 minutes the resolve. Unfortunately F/As and cockpit crews are not exempt from inappropriate conduct... but again their are remedies to the bone heads.

It was very much his business! Please explain how a non crew member, going through KCM with zero or a half assed bag check screening is not the business of ANY flight crew? If you saw a regular pax sneak thru security would that not be any of your business either? Plus as has been said it is idiots like that that screw it up for the rest of us.

tomgoodman 12-25-2015 07:07 AM

Besides Hoover, another great pilot and real gentleman from the X-1 project was the test team chief, Bob Cardenas. He later was chief test pilot for the Northrop "flying wing".

cardiomd 12-25-2015 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 2034250)
You really don't add much value here. Even your Yeager quote is asinine. You have just enough knowledge of aviation to not know a damn thing about what 99% of the guys on here really do day to day.

LOL. U mad, bro? :)

Merry Christmas! Sorry for whatever is happening in your life, and hope it gets better soon.


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2034270)
The last quote says it all about the FFDO "mentality."

Exactly. Criticism of this may come as across as chafing to the anti-authority crowd, or those who think you magically become a different pilot when you move from commercial to ATP? :confused:

FFDO establishment has little to do with flying a plane and more the bizarre fantasy that logical people recognize as fantasy.


Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 2034277)
I flew him some years ago, said hello as he was deplaning, he didn't even look at me.

Yes - a lot of stories like that. My fondness for Yeager was crushed when I started to read up about him and his life. I just keep the quote as it is amusing (and accurate.)


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2034189)
What's the point of smuggling something in if you're at the controls of the aircraft WITH A PISTOL BY YOUR SIDE?! :rolleyes:

If sombody can't figure out what I was saying, then he or she lacks the reasoning ability needed to determine threats and what is likely to happen in the next ten years. Hint: it likely will not have anything with the plane that the "FFDO" himself is on.

I don't nominate any tools today, Merry Christmas y'all.


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