Originally Posted by cardiomd

Today’s tool is some RJ hotshot captain-wannabe in Charlotte who used the middle urinal despite a full row of empty ones. He’s standing real close to the porcelain so despite a really big watch he probably has real small equipment. Probably a -145 driver. I have to squeeze past this guy to use the urinal near the wall, so I had to put my fine alligator-skin Coach bag on the far wall. The tool finishes emptying his 2 ounce bladder and backs up without looking and belly flops, almost cracking his skull on the tile, flailing around like a turtle on his back.

He's all like "are you kidding me? I know Kung Fu! You're just passenger but I fly the plane!" He then flips me the bird. Everybody is laughing at captain Klutz who bolts out without even washing his hands.

Maybe he works for United.

Originally Posted by cardiomd

Today’s tool is some RJ hotshot captain-wannabe in Charlotte who used the middle urinal despite a full row of empty ones. He’s standing real close to the porcelain so despite a really big watch he probably has real small equipment. Probably a -145 driver. I have to squeeze past this guy to use the urinal near the wall, so I had to put my fine alligator-skin Coach bag on the far wall. The tool finishes emptying his 2 ounce bladder and backs up without looking and belly flops, almost cracking his skull on the tile, flailing around like a turtle on his back.

He's all like "are you kidding me? I know Kung Fu! You're just passenger but I fly the plane!" He then flips me the bird. Everybody is laughing at captain Klutz who bolts out without even washing his hands.

Maybe he works for United.

Originally Posted by teddyballgame

Did you all notice this particular sentence from the written story accompanying the video?

The incident started on the plane, when the passenger said the pilot was taking up too much room in the aisle and being disrespectful, the police report says.


I think we can all envision how this scenario may have played out in the cabin.

It is common professional courtesy -- and even written policy at some airlines -- that non-revs and DHer's deplane last, after all the paying customers.

I can't count the number of times I have seen crewmembers sitting mid-cabin jump up, take their several bags out of the overheads on both sides of the aisle, and build their bomb stack right there in the middle of the aisle, holding up 50 paying passengers who are trying to deplane.

Admittedly, if I am close to check-in time, or running like hell for my bus home, I will step into the aisle to retrieve my stuff from the bins; but only when there is a break in the action upstream. And then, if I see a passenger approaching me, I step back into the seat area to let him or her by, before continuing to gather my belongings.

In this situation, the pilot's wife was waiting for him curbside. I don't think it would have killed either of them to wait an extra five minutes to let all the passengers deplane first.

Again, this is all speculation on my part, but from years of observation, I can guess what might have happened.

Nonetheless, any physical assault on any other human being, other than in self-defense, is unacceptable.

And that includes the pilot's whacking the passenger's hand and knocking his phone out of it, although I agree that the attempt by the passenger to photograph the pilot's badge was indeed a security violation.

Originally Posted by teddyballgame

Wankel,

I was referring to crewmembers wearing company uniforms.

My apologies for not making that clearer.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Oh man. Gotta love those rampers that know more about the airplane than those of us who fly them. Had a guy pull that back in my RJ days. He points out a dent near the boarding door during an outstation turn. I'd noticed the same dent leaving the hub earlier and we had called mx and sure enough, the dent was known to mx and had been catalogued. I explain all this to our aviation hero and proceed to finish my walk around.

A few minutes later our hero appears in the cockpit to tell us that contract mx should arrive within an hour and they were going to hold off boarding. Of course this is greeted by a couple of "wtfs!?" from the captain and myself. Turns out this guy had gone over our heads, called MAINLINE hq who had called out contract mx and threw a fit at our company's mx guys. Maybe 15 minutes later the captain's phone rings and it's the director of flight ops wanting to know what the hell is going on. Needless to say, a goat rope ensued and we took about a four hour delay while hands were wringed and asses were covered. All to reach the conclusion we had reached before ever leaving the hub: the dent was known, documented and the aircraft was indeed airworthy. Where do they find these guys indeed.

Originally Posted by mooney

KJAX by any chance? We're you my FO? I had an amazingly similar situation where after the FO finished his post flight walk around he comes up and says "ramper wants to talk to you". Ok. Hey Capt, you got a little dent back here! I'll go ahead and call mtx for ya! At least im pretty sure it was for a dent, whatever it was was either in the dent log or MELd anyways and I tell the ramper no need to. So as im checking into the hotel my phone explodes from maintenance control, dispatch etc telling me to go back to the plane because I forgot to write something up.

Originally Posted by CanoePilot

Thankfully those days are over and knowing what kind of blots hold the engine on the pylon is useless info. Training is more practical in this day in age and not ego driven by a few eggheads in the training department.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy

Oh man. Gotta love those rampers that know more about the airplane than those of us who fly them. Had a guy pull that back in my RJ days. He points out a dent near the boarding door during an outstation turn. I'd noticed the same dent leaving the hub earlier and we had called mx and sure enough, the dent was known to mx and had been catalogued. I explain all this to our aviation hero and proceed to finish my walk around.

A few minutes later our hero appears in the cockpit to tell us that contract mx should arrive within an hour and they were going to hold off boarding. Of course this is greeted by a couple of "wtfs!?" from the captain and myself. Turns out this guy had gone over our heads, called MAINLINE hq who had called out contract mx and threw a fit at our company's mx guys. Maybe 15 minutes later the captain's phone rings and it's the director of flight ops wanting to know what the hell is going on. Needless to say, a goat rope ensued and we took about a four hour delay while hands were wringed and asses were covered. All to reach the conclusion we had reached before ever leaving the hub: the dent was known, documented and the aircraft was indeed airworthy. Where do they find these guys indeed.