Tool of the day
04-26-2017 | 08:02 AM
#9271
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From: Paahlot
Did you all notice this particular sentence from the written story accompanying the video?
The incident started on the plane, when the passenger said the pilot was taking up too much room in the aisle and being disrespectful, the police report says.
I think we can all envision how this scenario may have played out in the cabin.
It is common professional courtesy -- and even written policy at some airlines -- that non-revs and DHer's deplane last, after all the paying customers.
I can't count the number of times I have seen crewmembers sitting mid-cabin jump up, take their several bags out of the overheads on both sides of the aisle, and build their bomb stack right there in the middle of the aisle, holding up 50 paying passengers.
And that includes the pilot's whacking the passenger's hand and knocking his phone out of it, although I agree that the attempt by the passenger to photograph the pilot's badge was indeed a security violation.
The incident started on the plane, when the passenger said the pilot was taking up too much room in the aisle and being disrespectful, the police report says.
I think we can all envision how this scenario may have played out in the cabin.
It is common professional courtesy -- and even written policy at some airlines -- that non-revs and DHer's deplane last, after all the paying customers.
I can't count the number of times I have seen crewmembers sitting mid-cabin jump up, take their several bags out of the overheads on both sides of the aisle, and build their bomb stack right there in the middle of the aisle, holding up 50 paying passengers.
And that includes the pilot's whacking the passenger's hand and knocking his phone out of it, although I agree that the attempt by the passenger to photograph the pilot's badge was indeed a security violation.
Everybody is entitled?
And we've never seen a (paying) pax hold up 100 pax?
We've never seen a DB put his bag in an overhead and sit 25 rows further back?
It takes two to tango.
All Mr Righteous needed to do was file a written complaint with the airline after the fact.
Include a description and seat number if you must. ( roll eyes)
No...Mr Righteous had to chase him down.
That's threatening behavior right there.
After that shove, that's assault.
All bets are off.
Uniform or not lol.
04-26-2017 | 05:15 PM
#9272
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did you all notice this particular sentence from the written story accompanying the video?
the incident started on the plane, when the passenger said the pilot was taking up too much room in the aisle and being disrespectful, the police report says.
i think we can all envision how this scenario may have played out in the cabin.
It is common professional courtesy -- and even written policy at some airlines -- that non-revs and dher's deplane last, after all the paying customers.
I can't count the number of times i have seen crewmembers sitting mid-cabin jump up, take their several bags out of the overheads on both sides of the aisle, and build their bomb stack right there in the middle of the aisle, holding up 50 paying passengers who are trying to deplane.
Admittedly, if i am close to check-in time, or running like hell for my bus home, i will step into the aisle to retrieve my stuff from the bins; but only when there is a break in the action upstream. And then, if i see a passenger approaching me, i step back into the seat area to let him or her by, before continuing to gather my belongings.
In this situation, the pilot's wife was waiting for him curbside. I don't think it would have killed either of them to wait an extra five minutes to let all the passengers deplane first.
Again, this is all speculation on my part, but from years of observation, i can guess what might have happened.
Nonetheless, any physical assault on any other human being, other than in self-defense, is unacceptable.
And that includes the pilot's whacking the passenger's hand and knocking his phone out of it, although i agree that the attempt by the passenger to photograph the pilot's badge was indeed a security violation.
the incident started on the plane, when the passenger said the pilot was taking up too much room in the aisle and being disrespectful, the police report says.
i think we can all envision how this scenario may have played out in the cabin.
It is common professional courtesy -- and even written policy at some airlines -- that non-revs and dher's deplane last, after all the paying customers.
I can't count the number of times i have seen crewmembers sitting mid-cabin jump up, take their several bags out of the overheads on both sides of the aisle, and build their bomb stack right there in the middle of the aisle, holding up 50 paying passengers who are trying to deplane.
Admittedly, if i am close to check-in time, or running like hell for my bus home, i will step into the aisle to retrieve my stuff from the bins; but only when there is a break in the action upstream. And then, if i see a passenger approaching me, i step back into the seat area to let him or her by, before continuing to gather my belongings.
In this situation, the pilot's wife was waiting for him curbside. I don't think it would have killed either of them to wait an extra five minutes to let all the passengers deplane first.
Again, this is all speculation on my part, but from years of observation, i can guess what might have happened.
Nonetheless, any physical assault on any other human being, other than in self-defense, is unacceptable.
And that includes the pilot's whacking the passenger's hand and knocking his phone out of it, although i agree that the attempt by the passenger to photograph the pilot's badge was indeed a security violation.
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04-26-2017 | 05:18 PM
#9273
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Joined: Sep 2015
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I pulled the reflective coating off my badge. Flew with it for months, and saw numerous TSA agents shine the black light on it and hand it back to me. Good job, guys!
04-30-2017 | 08:36 PM
#9274
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I'd like to nominate the Alaska pilot who clearly had some anger issues with center last week. Seattle was a mess, so all of the arrivals were getting slowed down and vectored to burn off 7-10 minute metering delays.
Captain Rage was clearly having none of this, and started badgering the controller with stuff like "Am I behind a slow-tation"? "Can he pick it up?" "Can we resume normal speed?" every 30 seconds, despite the fact that every single airplane on the frequency was getting slowed and turned.
Captain Rage was clearly having none of this, and started badgering the controller with stuff like "Am I behind a slow-tation"? "Can he pick it up?" "Can we resume normal speed?" every 30 seconds, despite the fact that every single airplane on the frequency was getting slowed and turned.
05-01-2017 | 05:43 AM
#9275
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I'd like to nominate the Alaska pilot who clearly had some anger issues with center last week. Seattle was a mess, so all of the arrivals were getting slowed down and vectored to burn off 7-10 minute metering delays.
Captain Rage was clearly having none of this, and started badgering the controller with stuff like "Am I behind a slow-tation"? "Can he pick it up?" "Can we resume normal speed?" every 30 seconds, despite the fact that every single airplane on the frequency was getting slowed and turned.
Captain Rage was clearly having none of this, and started badgering the controller with stuff like "Am I behind a slow-tation"? "Can he pick it up?" "Can we resume normal speed?" every 30 seconds, despite the fact that every single airplane on the frequency was getting slowed and turned.
They would reply: "Alaska xxxx cleared direct the field, maintain best forward, copy this number xxx-xxx-xxxx, I want details!!!!"
See? Easy...
05-03-2017 | 08:18 PM
#9276
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Joined: Aug 2015
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From: Guppy Gear Slinger
True story, just happened.
The ramper who met my airplane on an overnight trip (we had just arrived, and were scheduled to take the same plane out again at oh-dark-thirty) who accosted me as I deplaned, saying "You got a serious airworthiness problem."
I followed him to the rear of the aircraft, where he pointed to a very small dent in the engine cowl. Good catch, but I pointed out to him the daub of yellow paint highlighting the dent, which is an indication by our MX department that the dent has been reviewed by MX and signed off as airworthy. I'd seen that dent earlier in the day; that yellow paint tells us it's OK to fly.
I explained this to the ramper, but he refused to accept it. "This airplane is unairworthy." I responded, "Well, why don't you just go tell that to my captain, 'cause she's going to disagree with you, and she's the final authority as to the operation of this aircraft." He proceeds to do this, and gets the same answer.
Not to be denied, he says "I'm going to have to report this to the FAA." We told him to go right ahead, and we went to the hotel.
An hour or two later, in the middle of the night, my CA gets a call from our MX department asking what the heck this ramper is up to. He apparently called our HDQ and made a huge stink about pilots who were flying an unairworthy aircraft. He may have actually called the FAA, too.
Where do they find these people?!?
The ramper who met my airplane on an overnight trip (we had just arrived, and were scheduled to take the same plane out again at oh-dark-thirty) who accosted me as I deplaned, saying "You got a serious airworthiness problem."
I followed him to the rear of the aircraft, where he pointed to a very small dent in the engine cowl. Good catch, but I pointed out to him the daub of yellow paint highlighting the dent, which is an indication by our MX department that the dent has been reviewed by MX and signed off as airworthy. I'd seen that dent earlier in the day; that yellow paint tells us it's OK to fly.
I explained this to the ramper, but he refused to accept it. "This airplane is unairworthy." I responded, "Well, why don't you just go tell that to my captain, 'cause she's going to disagree with you, and she's the final authority as to the operation of this aircraft." He proceeds to do this, and gets the same answer.
Not to be denied, he says "I'm going to have to report this to the FAA." We told him to go right ahead, and we went to the hotel.
An hour or two later, in the middle of the night, my CA gets a call from our MX department asking what the heck this ramper is up to. He apparently called our HDQ and made a huge stink about pilots who were flying an unairworthy aircraft. He may have actually called the FAA, too.
Where do they find these people?!?
05-04-2017 | 06:13 AM
#9277
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Joined: Dec 2005
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Oh man. Gotta love those rampers that know more about the airplane than those of us who fly them. Had a guy pull that back in my RJ days. He points out a dent near the boarding door during an outstation turn. I'd noticed the same dent leaving the hub earlier and we had called mx and sure enough, the dent was known to mx and had been catalogued. I explain all this to our aviation hero and proceed to finish my walk around.
A few minutes later our hero appears in the cockpit to tell us that contract mx should arrive within an hour and they were going to hold off boarding. Of course this is greeted by a couple of "wtfs!?" from the captain and myself. Turns out this guy had gone over our heads, called MAINLINE hq who had called out contract mx and threw a fit at our company's mx guys. Maybe 15 minutes later the captain's phone rings and it's the director of flight ops wanting to know what the hell is going on. Needless to say, a goat rope ensued and we took about a four hour delay while hands were wringed and asses were covered. All to reach the conclusion we had reached before ever leaving the hub: the dent was known, documented and the aircraft was indeed airworthy. Where do they find these guys indeed.
A few minutes later our hero appears in the cockpit to tell us that contract mx should arrive within an hour and they were going to hold off boarding. Of course this is greeted by a couple of "wtfs!?" from the captain and myself. Turns out this guy had gone over our heads, called MAINLINE hq who had called out contract mx and threw a fit at our company's mx guys. Maybe 15 minutes later the captain's phone rings and it's the director of flight ops wanting to know what the hell is going on. Needless to say, a goat rope ensued and we took about a four hour delay while hands were wringed and asses were covered. All to reach the conclusion we had reached before ever leaving the hub: the dent was known, documented and the aircraft was indeed airworthy. Where do they find these guys indeed.
Last edited by freezingflyboy; 05-04-2017 at 06:51 AM. Reason: Grammar
05-04-2017 | 06:52 AM
#9278
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TOTD to the oblivious business traveler who sidled up to the urinal next to me and parked his rolling briefcase 12 inches behind me while I was taking a leak, thereby causing me to nearly crack my skull open on the hard floor as I stumbled over it when I backed away from the commode.
The loud ruckus and astounded "are you kidding me?!" that escaped my lips didn't even cause this guy to flinch. And being in CLT, there was only about another 200 people in the restroom to see it all happen. I haven't wanted to try out the Leonidas 300 kick that badly in a long time.
Maybe he thought I was a UA pilot??
The loud ruckus and astounded "are you kidding me?!" that escaped my lips didn't even cause this guy to flinch. And being in CLT, there was only about another 200 people in the restroom to see it all happen. I haven't wanted to try out the Leonidas 300 kick that badly in a long time.
Maybe he thought I was a UA pilot??
05-04-2017 | 09:20 AM
#9279
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From: 737
Oh man. Gotta love those rampers that know more about the airplane than those of us who fly them. Had a guy pull that back in my RJ days. He points out a dent near the boarding door during an outstation turn. I'd noticed the same dent leaving the hub earlier and we had called mx and sure enough, the dent was known to mx and had been catalogued. I explain all this to our aviation hero and proceed to finish my walk around.
A few minutes later our hero appears in the cockpit to tell us that contract mx should arrive within an hour and they were going to hold off boarding. Of course this is greeted by a couple of "wtfs!?" from the captain and myself. Turns out this guy had gone over our heads, called MAINLINE hq who had called out contract mx and threw a fit at our company's mx guys. Maybe 15 minutes later the captain's phone rings and it's the director of flight ops wanting to know what the hell is going on. Needless to say, a goat rope ensued and we took about a four hour delay while hands were wringed and asses were covered. All to reach the conclusion we had reached before ever leaving the hub: the dent was known, documented and the aircraft was indeed airworthy. Where do they find these guys indeed.
A few minutes later our hero appears in the cockpit to tell us that contract mx should arrive within an hour and they were going to hold off boarding. Of course this is greeted by a couple of "wtfs!?" from the captain and myself. Turns out this guy had gone over our heads, called MAINLINE hq who had called out contract mx and threw a fit at our company's mx guys. Maybe 15 minutes later the captain's phone rings and it's the director of flight ops wanting to know what the hell is going on. Needless to say, a goat rope ensued and we took about a four hour delay while hands were wringed and asses were covered. All to reach the conclusion we had reached before ever leaving the hub: the dent was known, documented and the aircraft was indeed airworthy. Where do they find these guys indeed.
05-05-2017 | 12:59 PM
#9280
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From: Seat: Vegan friendly faux leather
Today’s tool is some RJ hotshot captain-wannabe in Charlotte who used the middle urinal despite a full row of empty ones. He’s standing real close to the porcelain so despite a really big watch he probably has real small equipment. Probably a -145 driver. I have to squeeze past this guy to use the urinal near the wall, so I had to put my fine alligator-skin Coach bag on the far wall. The tool finishes emptying his 2 ounce bladder and backs up without looking and belly flops, almost cracking his skull on the tile, flailing around like a turtle on his back.
He's all like "are you kidding me? I know Kung Fu! You're just passenger but I fly the plane!" He then flips me the bird. Everybody is laughing at captain Klutz who bolts out without even washing his hands.
Maybe he works for United.
He's all like "are you kidding me? I know Kung Fu! You're just passenger but I fly the plane!" He then flips me the bird. Everybody is laughing at captain Klutz who bolts out without even washing his hands.
Maybe he works for United.
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