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Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1589760)

Thankfully those days are over and knowing what kind of blots hold the engine on the pylon is useless info. Training is more practical in this day in age and not ego driven by a few eggheads in the training department.

I remember those days! What is Miami and Seattle on the 72?

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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 2357052)

Oh man. Gotta love those rampers that know more about the airplane than those of us who fly them. Had a guy pull that back in my RJ days. He points out a dent near the boarding door during an outstation turn. I'd noticed the same dent leaving the hub earlier and we had called mx and sure enough, the dent was known to mx and had been catalogued. I explain all this to our aviation hero and proceed to finish my walk around.

A few minutes later our hero appears in the cockpit to tell us that contract mx should arrive within an hour and they were going to hold off boarding. Of course this is greeted by a couple of "wtfs!?" from the captain and myself. Turns out this guy had gone over our heads, called MAINLINE hq who had called out contract mx and threw a fit at our company's mx guys. Maybe 15 minutes later the captain's phone rings and it's the director of flight ops wanting to know what the hell is going on. Needless to say, a goat rope ensued and we took about a four hour delay while hands were wringed and asses were covered. All to reach the conclusion we had reached before ever leaving the hub: the dent was known, documented and the aircraft was indeed airworthy. Where do they find these guys indeed. :rolleyes:

Got to be a semi-regular occurrence back when I was slumming on the RJ to have rampers pull that crap.

"Hey Cap, looks like you have a dent in the right wing! If you put your head against the leading edge about 5 feet from the wingtip and look outboard while aligning the reflected sunlight at just the right angle then close one eye completely and the other partially you'll find a hairline scratch about an inch long. Don't worry if you don't see it at first, it took me about 5 tries to find it myself!!! Anyway we've already taken pictures of it to send to mainline and we're gonna hold boarding until Buster, the owner, operator, and on-call A&P from Buster's School of Flying, finishes duct-taping the wingtip back onto his 172 and can come over to take a look..."

I'd like to nominate Spirit Airlines for blaming their pilots' not picking up open time as reason for cancelling their flights.

Nobody HAS to pick up open time.

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Originally Posted by mooney (Post 2360086)

KJAX by any chance? We're you my FO? I had an amazingly similar situation where after the FO finished his post flight walk around he comes up and says "ramper wants to talk to you". Ok. Hey Capt, you got a little dent back here! I'll go ahead and call mtx for ya! At least im pretty sure it was for a dent, whatever it was was either in the dent log or MELd anyways and I tell the ramper no need to. So as im checking into the hotel my phone explodes from maintenance control, dispatch etc telling me to go back to the plane because I forgot to write something up.

Nope I don't think it was me. If memory serves, it was somewhere in the Southeast. Baton Rouge maybe? Or Birmingham? Sounds like it's not an uncommon occurrence out there though!

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Originally Posted by terminal (Post 2360806)

I'd like to nominate Spirit Airlines for blaming their pilots' not picking up open time as reason for cancelling their flights.

Nobody HAS to pick up open time.

Amen. Airline management 101 though sadly. Blame it on those mean, greedy unions. Always plays well with John Q Public. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by terminal (Post 2360806)

I'd like to nominate Spirit Airlines for blaming their pilots' not picking up open time as reason for cancelling their flights.

Nobody HAS to pick up open time.

Cliff Notes version of the Spirit TRO: "thou shall't now fly fatigued on broken airplanes after answering your phone on your day off."

I nominate this author. This is not going to end well. Look out for your crew members guys.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...ion/101426912/

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Bravo to a brave male passenger who confronted the American Airlines bully (aka flight attendant) who hassled a woman with a baby on Flight 591, from San Francisco to Dallas-Fort Worth on April 21. Just when I was beginning to be worried about the notable absence of passenger solidarity in support of David Dao on that United Airlines flight, along comes Sir Galahad to renew my faith that chivalry is not dead.

Unfortunately, that courageous traveler seems to be the exception. Witness the latest episode of passenger abuse aboard a Delta flight from Hawaii last month. The viral video shows the poor husband/father being hassled by both cabin crew and security officers. He has to deal with these authorities on his own, with no other passengers coming to his aid.

I elect Frontier Airlines who does their drug screening at an out station. Nothing like finishing flying for the day and all crewmembers on the van when a Frontier crew shows up and has everyone continue waiting for Frontier crewmember to complete a drug test. Very inconsiderate.

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Originally Posted by jethikoki (Post 2365079)

I hear your frustration. But sounds more like a union issue, whereas they don't have language mandates that transportation be separate for the employee undergoing the RDT.
"Go ahead guys, I'll grab a cab (and expense it later) when I get done. See you at the hotel."

Screening after misses the whole point.