Thought for the Day
07-29-2013, 05:08 AM
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Re: Thought for the Day
Jerry Mander's new book explores the fatal flaws of the "obsolete" capitalist
system and strategies for change.
There Are Good Alternatives to US Capitalism, But No Way to Get There | Alternet
system and strategies for change.
Living in the United States and watching the near dissolution of our own governance system over recent decades makes it hard to disagree with the perception that government is moribund, bought and sold by a small oligarchic class. As we try to describe good new approaches begging for application toward transformative change, the governing institutions of this society—corporate power, military power, media— continue to control all the levers of change as few systems before have done.
These governing institutions are emphatically not interested in our transformative projects. This seems to apply nearly as much to the Obama regime as it does to Republicans. At most, each party gives systemic reform some lip service. But really, they prefer to co-opt, repress, or kill it in order to protect their benefactors...
These governing institutions are emphatically not interested in our transformative projects. This seems to apply nearly as much to the Obama regime as it does to Republicans. At most, each party gives systemic reform some lip service. But really, they prefer to co-opt, repress, or kill it in order to protect their benefactors...
07-29-2013, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by N2264J
Jerry Mander's new book explores the fatal flaws of the "obsolete" capitalist
system and strategies for change.
There Are Good Alternatives to US Capitalism, But No Way to Get There | Alternet
system and strategies for change.
There Are Good Alternatives to US Capitalism, But No Way to Get There | Alternet
Why stop at wealth redistribution? Why not even out the smarts, strengths, grace, good looks, skill and cunning?
You can learn the rules and play the game or you can leave and create your own game. At least for now.
Hopium has been found to be a very dangerous and ineffective drug, you should avoid it.
It brings on attacks of desire for "moar free stuff" which can't be quenched.
Summary of the replacement proposed: We need a whole lot of "moar free stuff" and just the right people to tell us how to live properly. This will fix everything.
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07-29-2013, 08:59 AM
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Moar Free Stuff
By Alison Griswold
NEW YORK | Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:28pm EDT
(Reuters)
Consumer demand for Moar Free Stuff(tm) reached an all time high today as markets churned to nowhere. MFS demand shows no sign of slacking and producers of MFS have been unable to meet demand due to scarcity of the raw materials used in the production of MFS.
Many wholesale outlets report a decades long backlog with no improvement in sight. Up to this point MFS supply has been adequate, but future funding for production has lagged far behind demand due to the very low price producers have been able to get for MFS.
Promises to up the quota of MFS in the ninth three year plan are expected to be announced shortly.
NEW YORK | Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:28pm EDT
(Reuters)
Consumer demand for Moar Free Stuff(tm) reached an all time high today as markets churned to nowhere. MFS demand shows no sign of slacking and producers of MFS have been unable to meet demand due to scarcity of the raw materials used in the production of MFS.
Many wholesale outlets report a decades long backlog with no improvement in sight. Up to this point MFS supply has been adequate, but future funding for production has lagged far behind demand due to the very low price producers have been able to get for MFS.
Promises to up the quota of MFS in the ninth three year plan are expected to be announced shortly.
07-29-2013, 07:37 PM
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The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common :
They don't alter their views to fit the facts,they alter the facts to fit their views.
Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering .
They don't alter their views to fit the facts,they alter the facts to fit their views.
Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering .
07-30-2013, 11:40 AM
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It is , after all, fairly simple. If you think the property or life of another belongs to you, all you have to do is go and get it.
Most will hire thugs to do this, easy enough to find since they often hold out their services on TV. You will, of course, have to pay them in advance and there is never a firm contract for performance.
This is made more difficult since those seeking to steal will hire one set of thugs and those seeking to prevent theft may hire another set.
Most will hire thugs to do this, easy enough to find since they often hold out their services on TV. You will, of course, have to pay them in advance and there is never a firm contract for performance.
This is made more difficult since those seeking to steal will hire one set of thugs and those seeking to prevent theft may hire another set.
07-30-2013, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jungle
Why stop at wealth redistribution? Why not even out the smarts, strengths, grace, good looks, skill and cunning?
"The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. The weren't only equal before God and the law. The were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anyone else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General."
Read it all in "Welcome to the Monkey House" by Vonnegut. He wrote the story in 1961. Prophetic.
07-30-2013, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluglehrer
Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron" is an excellent account of this PC future. The opening paragraph is great, and the story only gets better:
"The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. The weren't only equal before God and the law. The were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anyone else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General."
Read it all in "Welcome to the Monkey House" by Vonnegut. He wrote the story in 1961. Prophetic.
"The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. The weren't only equal before God and the law. The were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anyone else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General."
Read it all in "Welcome to the Monkey House" by Vonnegut. He wrote the story in 1961. Prophetic.
08-10-2013, 11:50 AM
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"In the end more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."
- Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)
- Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)
08-22-2013, 07:54 AM
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risk, faith, and your money
“Faith in central banks today is equivalent to faith in the word dot-com in 1999 or faith in the eternal rise of housing prices in 2006.”
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09-03-2013, 11:28 AM
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"The only fair trade is free trade."
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