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Old 08-01-2013 | 12:00 PM
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A friend who grew up in the Smoky Mountains was coming home from the grocery store and found the road blocked by a mother bear. A line of cars formed, honking without effect. Finally, they sacrificed a coffee cake -- hurling it several yards into the brush. The bear chased it and all was well, but the next day she was in the road again, along with two cubs.
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Old 08-01-2013 | 12:23 PM
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A friend who grew up in the Smoky Mountains was coming home from the grocery store and found the road blocked by a mother bear. A line of cars formed, honking without effect. Finally, they sacrificed a coffee cake -- hurling it several yards into the brush. The bear chased it and all was well, but the next day she was in the road again, along with two cubs.
Yup, waiting for someone to throw her another coffee cake! "A fed bear is a dead bear".
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Old 08-01-2013 | 02:12 PM
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There are certainly more potent calibers than 5.45, however I've always believed that the best gun for the job is the one that you have with you. The man worked with what he had and lived to see another day.
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Old 08-01-2013 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima
Well, look at these aggressive moose.
Must not be mating season yet !
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Old 08-01-2013 | 08:59 PM
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Isn't it "meese?"
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Old 08-01-2013 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
There are certainly more potent calibers than 5.45, however I've always believed that the best gun for the job is the one that you have with you. The man worked with what he had and lived to see another day.
Not me, some of the calibers would be totally ridiculous and your time would be better spent running away. There are people that bring .22s, .22mags, .32s, .380s, 9mm, and other worthless calibers into the wilderness because it's their "carry gun" or they have some totally unrealistic expectation of getting a moving target in the eye while they are scared out of their mind. The 5.45/5.56 is at least moving fast enough that the small fragments WILL penetrate, it's just going to take a lot of those fragments to cause the massive damage necessary to take down something like a bear. I've thought about what it would take with my AR, and the local story the other day of the bear shot with the AK74 is pretty much what I expected, take a lot of rounds to cause the kind of damage necessary. It's not going to go through the skull intact and with enough energy due to how thick it is and the fragmentation, but enough fragments (rounds) and enough damage will be done eventually. Far from optimal and why people don't generally use ARs around here for bear defense, very poor choice.

Saw some huge moose just a few min ago, I swear one was as big as a car. Luckily it was chilling as we sped by on our bikes, but those are the kind that can charge you if they are protecting their calfs.
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Old 08-01-2013 | 10:24 PM
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Not me, some of the calibers would be totally ridiculous and your time would be better spent running away. There are people that bring .22s, .22mags, .32s, .380s, 9mm, and other worthless calibers into the wilderness because it's their "carry gun" or they have some totally unrealistic expectation of getting a moving target in the eye while they are scared out of their mind. The 5.45/5.56 is at least moving fast enough that the small fragments WILL penetrate, it's just going to take a lot of those fragments to cause the massive damage necessary to take down something like a bear. I've thought about what it would take with my AR, and the local story the other day of the bear shot with the AK74 is pretty much what I expected, take a lot of rounds to cause the kind of damage necessary. It's not going to go through the skull intact and with enough energy due to how thick it is and the fragmentation, but enough fragments (rounds) and enough damage will be done eventually. Far from optimal and why people don't generally use ARs around here for bear defense, very poor choice.

Saw some huge moose just a few min ago, I swear one was as big as a car. Luckily it was chilling as we sped by on our bikes, but those are the kind that can charge you if they are protecting their calfs.
Don't misunderstand me. I'm simply saying that if worst comes to worst and you need a firearm....anything is better than nothing.
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Old 08-02-2013 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RhinoPherret
Maybe with Yogi and Boo Boo.
LOL ! Dumpster diving bear style.
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