Would this be bad???
07-31-2007, 02:29 PM
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Would this be bad???
Since most good (respectable) regionals require 100multi hours, which I don’t have. Would it be bad to go to one regional (lets say Colgan, TSA, E9, XJ), get my 1000 and 100, and then re-apply to a good regional? I just don’t really want to screw anyone, because airlines have a business to run.
I am at 400tt and 35multi rt now
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I am at 400tt and 35multi rt now
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07-31-2007, 02:37 PM
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Your sacrifice is walking away from seniority, your employers challenge is to make the workplace rewarding so you want to stay.
Somewhere in the middle the two shall meet. My advice is to look out for number one - you.
Somewhere in the middle the two shall meet. My advice is to look out for number one - you.
07-31-2007, 02:37 PM
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Who are you worried about screwing?
By E9, do you mean 9E?
By XJ, do you mean ExpressJet? They require 100 multi, too, and to hear most people tell it, you wouldn't want to leave there anyway.
Lastly, basic grammar and sentence structure?
By E9, do you mean 9E?
By XJ, do you mean ExpressJet? They require 100 multi, too, and to hear most people tell it, you wouldn't want to leave there anyway.
Lastly, basic grammar and sentence structure?
07-31-2007, 02:42 PM
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I'm assuming he meant 9E and Mesaba (XJ)
I don't think it would be bad. Certainly not for you, if you don't mind losing some seniority as HSLD pointed out. And by taking the free training from one company and then moving on, the first company may realize that they need to compensate their pilots better in order to keep them, which benefits all the pilots there, and then maybe even pilots elsewhere...
However, there is the fact that you'd have to deal with indoc and initial training all over again, which pretty much sucks. Do what's best for you. I don't think anybody will really look down on you for that.
I don't think it would be bad. Certainly not for you, if you don't mind losing some seniority as HSLD pointed out. And by taking the free training from one company and then moving on, the first company may realize that they need to compensate their pilots better in order to keep them, which benefits all the pilots there, and then maybe even pilots elsewhere...
However, there is the fact that you'd have to deal with indoc and initial training all over again, which pretty much sucks. Do what's best for you. I don't think anybody will really look down on you for that.
07-31-2007, 02:48 PM
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If the aforementioned airlines are willing to lower their minimums as much as they have, it's because they need pilots and are choosing to go this route versus increasing pay and/or quality of life. So basically, they don't respect you and they deserve to be screwed. If they don't have some sort of enforceable training contract, then by all means, take advantage.
07-31-2007, 03:13 PM
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Why are you listing Mesaba as bad? They have some good things going on right now. If your gonna just build a few hundred hours and then screw them over...do it somewhere else. Does that mean Eagle is top tier with their 7yr upgrade because they have the 100 multi min?
07-31-2007, 03:40 PM
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Why not wait until you have real minimums? get some more (real) experience before you try to go fly a 50,000 pound airplane. That means MEI and instructing. After you do that for 1-2 years you can go ANYWHERE you want, and you will be happy that you did.
07-31-2007, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkAir
That's exactly what I've been saying. And I always get yelled at.
With regards to other pilots, there are accepted ways to look out for yourself without intentionally walking on the backs of those who have gone before you. If everybody just did whatever was best for them in the short term, it would all get REAL ugly, REAL fast. The idea is that by taking a longer-term view, we can hopefully all benefit down the road.
There are risks and no guarantees...that is the nature of this business (ask the US Air FO's who have 18 years seniority and are on the bottom of their list). The trick is to make the right career decisions at the right time...which is somewhat dependent on luck. But it's still better than a free-for-all.
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