Delta pilot ATC Rant
07-28-2014, 04:52 PM
#241
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Haha! Deal!
And, you're right, I missed your point.
And, you're right, I missed your point.
Sorry Buzz, I tried to run interference for you guys, but CardioMD busted my left flank, the militia imploded, and he defeated me and posted it as TOTD material.
Originally Posted by cardiomd
07-28-2014, 05:22 PM
#242
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I am all yes sir no sir, head down, no eye contact, I am not worthy. Unless it's RIC ground. Different story.
Now I am also passive agressive. So I just keep hitting the ident button... "is it doing that again? Yeah the last guy said it was constant, I don't know what to do about it..."
Now I am also passive agressive. So I just keep hitting the ident button... "is it doing that again? Yeah the last guy said it was constant, I don't know what to do about it..."
Perplexed and slightly annoyed, but nice female ground controller, "Delta XXXX, I didn't give you your sequence (i.e. WhyTF would you switch over?). You're after the company 75 holding short of mike 2, switch to tower 123.85." I felt an excuse was in order, "I was thrown off by your comment "Before I let you go..." I didn't mean to come across as a tool, but you never know. Didn't get any pushback on that, so hopefully not.
07-28-2014, 05:27 PM
#243
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
I had one a few months ago on the south side where I was left wondering...."Did she send me to tower?" Ground controller said, "Delta XXXX, before I let you go....." (forget what it was, but I complied or took the info) and I thought..." 'Before I let you go????' Does that mean she wanted to me to go to tower when she was done?" So, like an idiot who at that point didn't have his sequence, I go to tower waiting and then I get from tower, "Delta XXXX, switch over to 121.75."
Perplexed and slightly annoyed, but nice female ground controller, "Delta XXXX, I didn't give you your sequence (i.e. WhyTF would you switch over?). You're after the company 75 holding short of mike 2, switch to tower 123.85." I felt an excuse was in order, "I was thrown off by your comment "Before I let you go..." I didn't mean to come across as a tool, but you never know. Didn't get any pushback on that, so hopefully not.
Perplexed and slightly annoyed, but nice female ground controller, "Delta XXXX, I didn't give you your sequence (i.e. WhyTF would you switch over?). You're after the company 75 holding short of mike 2, switch to tower 123.85." I felt an excuse was in order, "I was thrown off by your comment "Before I let you go..." I didn't mean to come across as a tool, but you never know. Didn't get any pushback on that, so hopefully not.
CNN: Sexist pig Delta pilot yells at innocent female air traffic controller!!!!!
07-28-2014, 05:42 PM
#244
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Originally Posted by mooney
Sorry Buzz, I tried to run interference for you guys, but CardioMD busted my left flank, the militia imploded, and he defeated me and posted it as TOTD material.
07-28-2014, 05:57 PM
#245
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I've been flying for 33 years. I've heard a lot of idiotic **** on the radio. I've never felt compelled to run home to my computer, track it down, and flame a fellow pilot or controller.
The DAL guy was way out of line. So was the guy who highlighted it (while having his app in for a job at the same company). The former has issues, so does the latter.
When was the last time you posted an exchange from a doctor or cop that was douchey?
The DAL guy was way out of line. So was the guy who highlighted it (while having his app in for a job at the same company). The former has issues, so does the latter.
When was the last time you posted an exchange from a doctor or cop that was douchey?
I never had to use it myself, but I remember in compsci classes seeing the old-school dial-up tech (acoustic coupler).
*Purely in jest
07-28-2014, 06:49 PM
#246
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
I had one a few months ago on the south side where I was left wondering...."Did she send me to tower?" Ground controller said, "Delta XXXX, before I let you go....." (forget what it was, but I complied or took the info) and I thought..." 'Before I let you go????' Does that mean she wanted to me to go to tower when she was done?" So, like an idiot who at that point didn't have his sequence, I go to tower waiting and then I get from tower, "Delta XXXX, switch over to 121.75."
Perplexed and slightly annoyed, but nice female ground controller, "Delta XXXX, I didn't give you your sequence (i.e. WhyTF would you switch over?). You're after the company 75 holding short of mike 2, switch to tower 123.85." I felt an excuse was in order, "I was thrown off by your comment "Before I let you go..." I didn't mean to come across as a tool, but you never know. Didn't get any pushback on that, so hopefully not.
Perplexed and slightly annoyed, but nice female ground controller, "Delta XXXX, I didn't give you your sequence (i.e. WhyTF would you switch over?). You're after the company 75 holding short of mike 2, switch to tower 123.85." I felt an excuse was in order, "I was thrown off by your comment "Before I let you go..." I didn't mean to come across as a tool, but you never know. Didn't get any pushback on that, so hopefully not.
Also, with your situation and the original pilot's outburst -- I think I can speak for my fellow controllers and say we don't think anything of it at all. We take 10x the s--t talk from each other so this kind of stuff is only funny. We're not out to violate you, just trying to move things along. I bet the most this original controller did was turn to the local/tower guy and say this Delta hasn't had his coffee yet, look out. Then he completely forgot about it (until all this).
07-29-2014, 05:19 AM
#248
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Guaranteed it won't get the traction that the stuck-mic diatribe about old FA's at SWA did a few years ago.
To the $12M fine SW just got for not fixing the cracks in the skin.
This will also be 'news' for the next 24 hours, then on to the next CNN manufactured tragedy.
Can we PLEASE see more of Martin Savidge and that dude with the soul patch in a 777 sim trying to do an emergency descent??
07-29-2014, 05:23 AM
#249
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Originally Posted by ATCBob
I guarantee you not, from ATC's perspective anyway. It's for reasons like this that we are constantly reminded to only use standard phraseology, otherwise we're taught different pilots will interpret it differently. We don't like unpredictable results, so it's good you told her what confused you. Hopefully for her it was a lesson learned.
Also, with your situation and the original pilot's outburst -- I think I can speak for my fellow controllers and say we don't think anything of it at all. We take 10x the s--t talk from each other so this kind of stuff is only funny. We're not out to violate you, just trying to move things along. I bet the most this original controller did was turn to the local/tower guy and say this Delta hasn't had his coffee yet, look out. Then he completely forgot about it (until all this).
Also, with your situation and the original pilot's outburst -- I think I can speak for my fellow controllers and say we don't think anything of it at all. We take 10x the s--t talk from each other so this kind of stuff is only funny. We're not out to violate you, just trying to move things along. I bet the most this original controller did was turn to the local/tower guy and say this Delta hasn't had his coffee yet, look out. Then he completely forgot about it (until all this).
07-29-2014, 05:45 AM
#250
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Originally Posted by Timbo
It's been 24 hours, the news cycle has moved on....
To the $12M fine SW just got for not fixing the cracks in the skin.
This will also be 'news' for the next 24 hours, then on to the next CNN manufactured tragedy.
Can we PLEASE see more of Martin Savidge and that dude with the soul patch in a 777 sim trying to do an emergency descent??
To the $12M fine SW just got for not fixing the cracks in the skin.
This will also be 'news' for the next 24 hours, then on to the next CNN manufactured tragedy.
Can we PLEASE see more of Martin Savidge and that dude with the soul patch in a 777 sim trying to do an emergency descent??
Where would we be without CNN (like all other news orgs) manipulating what they want to be the news story of the hour, no matter how ridiculous it is.
I am surprised good old Wolf Blitzer is not having a round table discussion with the controller and pilot from this event while CNN’ rounds up its proverbial line of so called experts (studio lizards) to provide illuminating comments on ATC coms.
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