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aviatormjc 07-27-2014 06:45 PM


It is on the web page for abc news. Now, not only will the pilot probably get in trouble but I am sure Delta does not like the bad publicity. I hope the original poster is proud of himself. Nice first post and good luck on your app with Delta.
Cause everyone wants to work at Delta. It's that holier than thou attitude getting you guys that stigma.

P.S. Please stop clogging up the frequency asking for wind checks. Thank you.

Carl Spackler 07-27-2014 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by pilot30324 (Post 1692924)
Again, do you really think I'm that stupid? C'mon Buddy unless you can figure out every Expressjet(both United and delta), Air Shuttle, Skywest aircraft that could be on freq. Or who knows...Maybe I'm Spirit or Silver or Airtran.... and then some how figure who was flying the plane...and then exactly which seat I am (capt or fo)....and then can provide 100% fact that I'm linked to this username.. I'm not too worried.


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1692985)
It only takes five minutes to hear everyone who was active on 121.75 between calling in their spot to their hand off to tower or crossing the runway and proceeding to the ramp during the time of the rant. And it's not that many, much less non Delta. I should know, I listened and wrote them down. Wasn't many at all. Go listen.

Forgot to bid is exactly right here Pilot30324. I can promise you that your name and the names of those other crew members are already known. A number of folks here that fly for Delta have probably already got the IP address you used on all of your posts and that geographical data will have narrowed the list of possible folks down to a few. You'll never get interviewed here. Sadly, the others won't either. You simply couldn't risk hiring someone like you who has such disdain for the company.

Good luck at the other airlines you apply with. From reading your posts, you're going to need it.

Carl

John Carr 07-27-2014 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1693367)
Forgot to bid is exactly right here Pilot30324. I can promise you that your name and the names of those other crew members are already known. A number of folks here that fly for Delta have probably already got the IP address you used on all of your posts and that geographical data will have narrowed the list of possible folks down to a few. You'll never get interviewed here. Sadly, the others won't either. You simply couldn't risk hiring someone like you who has such disdain for the company.

Good luck at the other airlines you apply with. From reading your posts, you're going to need it.

Carl

Internets/interwebz/blogga' sphere lesson;

If you're going to exercise completely poor judgement and do something totally stupid, do it AFTER you get the job you want. NOT before.

Lest the talents of Edward Snowden be utilized.

80ktsClamp 07-27-2014 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1693391)
Internets/interwebz/blogga' sphere lesson;

If you're going to exercise completely poor judgement and do something totally stupid, do it AFTER you get the job you want. NOT before.

Lest the talents of Edward Snowden be utilized.

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/u...t-pictures.jpg

John Carr 07-27-2014 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1693409)

Thank God the shrink didn't discover your affinity for cats.

GogglesPisano 07-27-2014 09:37 PM

Guaranteed it won't get the traction that the stuck-mic diatribe about old FA's at SWA did a few years ago.

Yazzoo 07-27-2014 09:41 PM

Must've been a slow news day...

80ktsClamp 07-27-2014 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1693424)
Thank God the shrink didn't discover your affinity for cats.

http://www.turpentinecreek.org/media...189674c0e5.jpg

forgot to bid 07-28-2014 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1693353)
Jeez, how the hell does something like this rise to the level national news?
:confused:
Other than the guy sounding like an idiot over the radio, absolutely nothing happened.

And honestly, I don't think it even phased the controller.

forgot to bid 07-28-2014 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1693409)

SWA let that one live? And we're talking about a angry pilot? The world is upside down.

Fly4hire 07-28-2014 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by Yazzoo (Post 1693447)
Must've been a slow news day...

It was until the OP went out of his way to bring this public and it went viral. I agree that while reflecting badly on the pilot, was not that big a deal, and likely never would have risen beyond the exchange had it not been intentionally highlighted. Now someone is going to at the very least get an @ss chewing, and possibly disciplinary action, and someone who might otherwise be a decent individual might lose a shot at a job at DAL. All for 5 minutes of internet fame. Sad :(

Boomer 07-28-2014 05:15 AM

Robin Meade is talking about "Settle down Captain Happy" on CNN after the next commercial break. Set your DVRs or check it out on airport TVs everywhere.

Airhoss 07-28-2014 06:26 AM

Guys and girls just keep in mind that EVERYTHING you say on the radio is now publicly available. We pilots make good copy for the press ESPECIALLY if we have a less than stellar moment. Apparently being a pilot now days is on par with being a kiddie pop star in the eyes of what we call the "press". They love to catch us in a screw up.

Sounds 07-28-2014 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1693367)
Delta have probably already got the IP address you used on all of your posts and that geographical data will have narrowed the list of possible folks down to a few. You'll never get interviewed here.

DELTA's ELITE TEAM OF HACKERS. This division is dedicated soley to tracking posters on APC. In conjunction with the NSA, they have tracked down your IP and the FBI van will be there to pick you up soon.
http://i.imgur.com/xWLWd.jpg

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Fly4hire 07-28-2014 07:06 AM

They have the DPA on it. Be scared, very scared ;)

IBPilot 07-28-2014 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1693265)
Thanks, in part, to a douche who also wants to be a Delta pilot. Without his post, this goes unnoticed. Guys in aircraft and working for ATC snap at each other all the time. The Delta guy was unhinged, no doubt. The guy that started this thread has issues as well.

I hope the Delta guy gets help and the moron that called him out realizes what a ass hat he is.

The aviation world doesn't revolve around the Delta APC page. This was out on various social medias before the guy put it here for your enjoyment.

Free Flyer 07-28-2014 07:36 AM

His rant is weak compared to the SWA rant. That was classic!!!!

Radials Rule 07-28-2014 07:57 AM

Do you guys really think that had it not been for the OP of this thread, that it would have never been started by someone else?:rolleyes:

Doug Masters 07-28-2014 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1693621)
The aviation world doesn't revolve around the Delta APC page.


What?!?!????

Now we gotta find out who you are too! This is getting complicated. ;)

IBPilot 07-28-2014 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1693668)
What?!?!????

Now we gotta find out who you are too! This is getting complicated. ;)

Just trying to distract everyone over at DL hiring so the OP still has a shot there since you are too busy trying to figure out the rest of us :D I want to see him land his dream job!

Lambourne 07-28-2014 09:08 AM

This will only be complete when set to one of those Hitler videos. I know someone has to be working on this. ;-)

china clipper 07-28-2014 10:59 AM

But wait, there's more. I bet you didn't know the pilot landed on the wrong runway!

Exchange between Delta pilot and air traffic controller revealed by audio recording | Mail Online

John Carr 07-28-2014 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1693473)
SWA let that one live? And we're talking about a angry pilot? The world is upside down.

If you knew ANYTHING, you'd know it's puppies that Herb and Colleen need to see, NOT cats.


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1693621)
The aviation world doesn't revolve around the Delta APC page. This was out on various social medias before the guy put it here for your enjoyment.


Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 1693664)
Do you guys really think that had it not been for the OP of this thread, that it would have never been started by someone else?:rolleyes:

Agreed. It's not like the OP is a some Julian Assange-esque/Wikileaks master that broke some HUGE story.

I can picture it now, it's like the end of a Scooby Doo episode and Captain Happy is getting cuffed/taken away and grumbling "and I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling APC posters!!!!!"


Originally Posted by Free Flyer (Post 1693643)
His rant is weak compared to the SWA rant. That was classic!!!!

Not much can compare to that, except maybe the phone call of the train worker that's completely plowed.

I still giggle every time I hear the word "moped".

forgot to bid 07-28-2014 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1693621)
This was out on various social medias before the guy put it here for your enjoyment.

Well, not exactly...


Originally Posted by pilot30324 (Post 1692195)
I promise you it's a 100% real. I was taxing when it happened. Hence why I went on liveatc.net and found it. Anybody can find it there and I'm pretty sure that website doesn't make fake recordings.

July 25, 1100z, 121.75 for ground


SeamusTheHound 07-28-2014 12:20 PM

Ok, based on the date and flight number, one of you Delta bubbas knows who this guy is. Come on, give it to us: Is he an a-hole or was this just a cranky exchange?

Someone get a hold of this guy and give us the scoop! (and don't respond with any bad attitude! LOL)

forgot to bid 07-28-2014 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by SeamusTheHound (Post 1693849)
Ok, based on the date and flight number, one of you Delta bubbas knows who this guy is. Come on, give it to us: Is he an a-hole or was this just a cranky exchange?

Someone get a hold of this guy and give us the scoop! (and don't respond with any bad attitude! LOL)

Evidently a good guy.

Which is why I lean towards this being more of him having an issue with a specific controller. I have no idea his previous schedule but there was IROPS the night before and maybe there was a run in. I don't know.

To me we all make mistakes. Controllers make mistakes, pilots make one every 2-3 minutes, normal guys don't get bent out of shape... unless... there is a reason. That rant was directed as a specific person not ATL ATC.

Just my two cents.

ATCBob 07-28-2014 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by china clipper (Post 1693795)
But wait, there's more. I bet you didn't know the pilot landed on the wrong runway!

Exchange between Delta pilot and air traffic controller revealed by audio recording | Mail Online

Geez... I can't wait for CNN's official aviation expert Richard Quest ("who has flow many times as a passenger in that type of aircraft") to chime in with his analysis and speculation.

IBPilot 07-28-2014 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1693841)
Well, not exactly...

I wouldn't have said it if I hadn't received various facebook etc notifications about it time stamped BEFORE the original post here. lets face it, there are guys who just can't get enough of aviation and sit around listening to ATC live for whatever reason, and it is entirely possible that multiple people posted this independent of each other, not the giant pick on Delta APC conspiracy.

cencal83406 07-28-2014 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1693873)
I wouldn't have said it if I hadn't received various facebook etc notifications about it time stamped BEFORE the original post here. lets face it, there are guys who just can't get enough of aviation and sit around listening to ATC live for whatever reason, and it is entirely possible that multiple people posted this independent of each other, not the giant pick on Delta APC conspiracy.

Truth... and even if FB pages are private or semi-private, some of these reporters are sleuthy...

I received a phone call from CNN the morning of the Colgan crash... because the jumpseater was a friend on my facebook page.:eek:

buzzpat 07-28-2014 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1693873)
I wouldn't have said it if I hadn't received various facebook etc notifications about it time stamped BEFORE the original post here. lets face it, there are guys who just can't get enough of aviation and sit around listening to ATC live for whatever reason, and it is entirely possible that multiple people posted this independent of each other, not the giant pick on Delta APC conspiracy.

I checked my FB and all of the associated posts were after the APC OP. In any event, it would take a pilot to think that exchange was out of the ordinary. And what does it say about the dude who posted it that he took the time, after flying and operating early on a weekend morning, to go to ATC live, listen to it, and post it on APC. Douchey to say the least IMHO.

Notice, also, how quiet he's become since other guys shot him down. He only dug his hole deeper calling Delta pilots "idiots" and revealing that he has his app in at Delta. Talk about an "idiot." At a minimum, his judgement should come up at an interview, if he's fortunate enough to get one.

IcyAviator 07-28-2014 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 1693712)
This will only be complete when set to one of those Hitler videos. I know someone has to be working on this. ;-)

And then make sure they back it up because someone will file for its removal...like the flight school I went to, the video was hilarious.

Except to the school admins haha

Lobaeux 07-28-2014 02:06 PM

Now playing, on CNN.

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

John Carr 07-28-2014 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1693852)
Evidently a good guy.

Which is why I lean towards this being more of him having an issue with a specific controller. I have no idea his previous schedule but there was IROPS the night before and maybe there was a run in. I don't know.

With all that being said, have you ever had a run in with a controller?

Then said to yourself "man, next time I have to deal with this controller, I'm gonna totally unload on them"?

Even though it was a DIFFERENT day, and the controller didn't do anything in that exchange to incite the behavior?

Who knows? Based on what you could be suggesting, maybe pilots the the night before got snippy with the controller and the controller simply responded in kind? Hmmmmmmm, maybe the internetz detectives can get to the bottom of this whole mess and pull the tapes from the IROP period the night before.........

Good grief, if any LGA based pilots did that circa 2000-2001 with a SPECIFIC controller that was notorious for having a serious attitude, it would have made that place even more fun.

mooney 07-28-2014 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1693910)
In any event, it would take a pilot to think that exchange was out of the ordinary.

not true, look at all the non-pilot comments about the pilot's behavior (not just this story but others like it). It doesn't take a pilot to know when one is being a douche. I'm not a doctor or a cop, but I can tell when their exchanges are out of the ordinary/douchey.

LNL76 07-28-2014 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1693987)
not true, look at all the non-pilot comments about the pilot's behavior (not just this story but others like it). It doesn't take a pilot to know when one is being a douche. I'm not a doctor or a cop, but I can tell when their exchanges are out of the ordinary/douchey.

.

One would have to be a moron NOT to recognize the rude, condescending, unprofessional tone by Captain Happy. Kudos to the controller for keeping his cool and not firing back.

buzzpat 07-28-2014 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1693987)
not true, look at all the non-pilot comments about the pilot's behavior (not just this story but others like it). It doesn't take a pilot to know when one is being a douche. I'm not a doctor or a cop, but I can tell when their exchanges are out of the ordinary/douchey.

I've been flying for 33 years. I've heard a lot of idiotic **** on the radio. I've never felt compelled to run home to my computer, track it down, and flame a fellow pilot or controller.

The DAL guy was way out of line. So was the guy who highlighted it (while having his app in for a job at the same company). The former has issues, so does the latter.

When was the last time you posted an exchange from a doctor or cop that was douchey?

mooney 07-28-2014 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1694000)
I've been flying for 33 years. I've heard a lot of idiotic **** on the radio. I've never felt compelled to run home to my computer, track it down, and flame a fellow pilot or controller.

The DAL guy was way out of line. So was the guy who highlighted it (while having his app in for a job at the same company). The former has issues, so does the latter.

When was the last time you posted an exchange from a doctor or cop that was douchey?

missed my point totally. Whether you agree with it being posted or not wasn't the issue. I've heard much worse on the radio. But it wouldn't take a pilot to realize that a pilot (or controller) was being out of line, as you said in your post. That's the only item I was debating. Now let me go listen to ATC tapes for a few minutes, I'll try to dig up some dirt on American to cut Delta a break ;)

buzzpat 07-28-2014 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1694010)
missed my point totally. Whether you agree with it being posted or not wasn't the issue. I've heard much worse on the radio. But it wouldn't take a pilot to realize that a pilot (or controller) was being out of line, as you said in your post. That's the only item I was debating. Now let me go listen to ATC tapes for a few minutes, I'll try to dig up some dirt on American to cut Delta a break ;)

Haha! Deal!

And, you're right, I missed your point. ;)

John Carr 07-28-2014 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1694010)
Now let me go listen to ATC tapes for a few minutes, I'll try to dig up some dirt on American to cut Delta a break ;)

I don't known man, picking another legacy isn't really fair with the players involved. You should either go for SW or what for it.........wait for it..............ALASKA!!!!!!!!!

There HAS to be a tape out there somewhere of an AS pilot losing it while flying an RNP into Juno.

DeadHead 07-28-2014 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1694000)
I've been flying for 33 years. I've heard a lot of idiotic **** on the radio. I've never felt compelled to run home to my computer, track it down, and flame a fellow pilot or controller.

The DAL guy was way out of line. So was the guy who highlighted it (while having his app in for a job at the same company). The former has issues, so does the latter.

When was the last time you posted an exchange from a doctor or cop that was douchey?

Couldn't agree more. I'm not even sure how this qualifies as national news?

I've heard a lot worse on the radio before. I typically just block a guy on the radio when he's acting like an idiot. It's best for those transmissions to be unreadable/unheard IMO, and that's for everyone's benefit.


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