Crazy approaches
#12
Here is one going into Palm Springs, CA
Sure is a lot of fun coming over the mountains and descending on this approach.
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0701/00545RRY13R.PDF
Sure is a lot of fun coming over the mountains and descending on this approach.
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0701/00545RRY13R.PDF
#16
Most interesting US approaches:
- DCA River Visual
- VOR 13 at JFK
- Expressway visual at LGA
- Aspen (ASE)
- Fast and Furious at ORD (anything on any given day)
I am sure there are others.
The wildest ones in Europe I used to fly were in LCY, LUG and BRN. Lugano (LUG) was the craziest, with a 6.67 degree glideslope to be left downwards to intercept the 4.0 degree visual part of the approach. Draw a picture and do the math. Pucker factor there is high too.
- DCA River Visual
- VOR 13 at JFK
- Expressway visual at LGA
- Aspen (ASE)
- Fast and Furious at ORD (anything on any given day)
I am sure there are others.
The wildest ones in Europe I used to fly were in LCY, LUG and BRN. Lugano (LUG) was the craziest, with a 6.67 degree glideslope to be left downwards to intercept the 4.0 degree visual part of the approach. Draw a picture and do the math. Pucker factor there is high too.
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NDB-DME Rwy 36 Noatak, Alaska (PAWN)
DME arc off of the NDB (has a DME associated with it, no VOR etc). Tune the NAV radio to pickup the DME on 110.2 and then use the NDB for everything else. DME arc off of the NDB and then in on the approach. It's only listed as a 2 degree angle off of the runway on the inbound, but ends up being a good bit more than that due to changes in magnetic north since 01 when the chart was last updated.
Not really a difficult approach, but it's definately different and gets people to go "huh?" a lot.
The NDB-DME is the only approach to that airport.
There are some crazy ones up here. I've seen an ILS plate with a DH of over 1,000 ft AGL and a short warning of "missed approaches commenced after the missed approach point do not provide standard obstruction clearance."
Anaktuvuk Pass (PAKP) is in a pass/canyon. The NDB approach gets you to 3953' above field elevation (basically right at where the pass starts). There are 4,000 ft peacks essentially on all sides. The GPS approach gets you to 3353' above field elevation, and below peaks that will be off to either side (and pretty darn close).
Here are the notes for Anaktuvuk:
CAUTION: Vehicles and pedestrians crossing runway.
Runway 1-19 recommend visual inspection prior to use.
Approach to Rwy 1, mountainous terrain within 2NM of runway.
Buildings and equipment in close prximity to runway; local vehicle traffic use runway frequently.
It's a gravel runway, we sometimes take our 1900s into there...
Ruby (PARY) and Nulato (PANU) will really mess with you.
Ruby seems to be 100' higher on the ends then in the center with relatively high terrain off of the 21 departure end. It's disconcerting to be screaming down the runway going downhill looking at the hill that starts right at the end of the runway getting bigger and bigger (I've been there twice in the last week). Gravel.
Nulato is is an upsloping runway with a 200' cliff off of the downward end (ends at the Yukon river, approach end of 02) and a big hill off the high end (departure end of 02). Really weird sight picture on the approach. Also gravel and we usually have 2 1900 flights into there a day.
There are approaches to both of those airports, but going there would only be worth it if you had a visual sim that could do a decent job at the runway sight picture.
DME arc off of the NDB (has a DME associated with it, no VOR etc). Tune the NAV radio to pickup the DME on 110.2 and then use the NDB for everything else. DME arc off of the NDB and then in on the approach. It's only listed as a 2 degree angle off of the runway on the inbound, but ends up being a good bit more than that due to changes in magnetic north since 01 when the chart was last updated.
Not really a difficult approach, but it's definately different and gets people to go "huh?" a lot.
The NDB-DME is the only approach to that airport.There are some crazy ones up here. I've seen an ILS plate with a DH of over 1,000 ft AGL and a short warning of "missed approaches commenced after the missed approach point do not provide standard obstruction clearance."
Anaktuvuk Pass (PAKP) is in a pass/canyon. The NDB approach gets you to 3953' above field elevation (basically right at where the pass starts). There are 4,000 ft peacks essentially on all sides. The GPS approach gets you to 3353' above field elevation, and below peaks that will be off to either side (and pretty darn close).
Here are the notes for Anaktuvuk:
CAUTION: Vehicles and pedestrians crossing runway.
Runway 1-19 recommend visual inspection prior to use.
Approach to Rwy 1, mountainous terrain within 2NM of runway.
Buildings and equipment in close prximity to runway; local vehicle traffic use runway frequently.
It's a gravel runway, we sometimes take our 1900s into there...
Ruby (PARY) and Nulato (PANU) will really mess with you.
Ruby seems to be 100' higher on the ends then in the center with relatively high terrain off of the 21 departure end. It's disconcerting to be screaming down the runway going downhill looking at the hill that starts right at the end of the runway getting bigger and bigger (I've been there twice in the last week). Gravel.
Nulato is is an upsloping runway with a 200' cliff off of the downward end (ends at the Yukon river, approach end of 02) and a big hill off the high end (departure end of 02). Really weird sight picture on the approach. Also gravel and we usually have 2 1900 flights into there a day.
There are approaches to both of those airports, but going there would only be worth it if you had a visual sim that could do a decent job at the runway sight picture.
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