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Old 12-12-2025 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MELedMel
Look, I get it, there are broken souls camped out on every corner, surviving on scraps and whatever coins people flick into a filthy hat like it’s charity absolution.

But spare me the tonedeaf bull****, a guy with thousands of hours, ATP ticket, flying heavy metal for an outfit that brags it’s a “legacy,” shouldn’t be crashing on some mate’s couch or eating cold noodles out of a dorm fridge
That’s a ******* disgrace.

Used to be $36? Jesus.

That’s like a battered wife whispering, “Well, at least he never used a closed fist, and Tammy’s husband put her in the ICU that one time.”

The second you slap “legacy” on the letterhead, the word “sacrifice” gets torched. Full stop.

And comparing a pilot paycheck to a flight attendant’s? That’s not apples and oranges; that’s comparing a neurosurgeon to the guy who mops the OR floor. Different planet, different responsibilities, different everything. Laughable.
You’re the one that is tonedeaf. Let me guess you spent a year at Skywest and now you’re entitled to neurosurgeon money? FO pay is livable. Hawaii is expensive. Not very complicated. Year 2 and year 3 FO pay is comfortable. I never said $36 was right, I thought it was a very bad thing. It helps to know the history if you’re gunna work here. With your attitude you probably won’t get hired.
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Old 12-12-2025 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MELedMel
Look, pal, I never stooped to slinging gear for a regional.

“Livable” is what you tell the stoned kid burning patties at the drivethru, not a >2500 hour ATP.

And yeah, I know I won’t get hired there, I couldn’t afford the pay cut.
Wow you’re really cool. Thanks for stopping by.
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Old 12-12-2025 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBogardi
Wow you’re really cool. Thanks for stopping by.
Looks like (s)he is at Atlas! 🤣

Now that’s funny!
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Old 12-12-2025 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Akamai
Looks like (s)he is at Atlas! 🤣

Now that’s funny!
Can’t afford to take a paycut so I’ll work at Atlas my whole life 😂

Little does he know he ends up with a lot less money having a career at Atlas vs HAL.
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Old 12-12-2025 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBogardi;[url=tel:3980163
3980163]Wow you’re really cool. Thanks for stopping by.
You have no clue where I’m grinding it out.

Doesn’t change ****, Hawaiian’s tossing out wages that wouldn’t buy a decent hangover in a third-world port, let alone match the skills they’re demanding or the ******* cost of living in paradise.


Originally Posted by MrBogardi;[url=tel:3980163
3980163[/url]]Wow you’re really cool. Thanks for stopping by.
NPC?
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Old 12-12-2025 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MELedMel
You have no clue where I’m grinding it out.

Doesn’t change ****, Hawaiian’s tossing out wages that wouldn’t buy a decent hangover in a third-world port, let alone match the skills they’re demanding or the ******* cost of living in paradise.



NPC?
Thanks again for your opinions.
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Old 12-12-2025 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MELedMel
You’re welcome
Have fun grinding. They pay us enough at HAL so we don’t have to grind.
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Old 12-12-2025 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MELedMel
You have no clue where I’m grinding it out.

Doesn’t change ****, Hawaiian’s tossing out wages that wouldn’t buy a decent hangover in a third-world port, let alone match the skills they’re demanding or the ******* cost of living in paradise.



NPC?
Well after all this back and forth, it appears that you may not know, Alaska is doing the hiring and if you were to apply and get hired you can select an Alaska class and their equipment and base and get the higher first year rate, which is much more than Hawaiian side. All the bickering and bashing won't be necessary then, also, we are in contract negotiations and the pay you are questioning will end with that JCBA.
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Old 12-12-2025 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Neosporin
Well after all this back and forth, it appears that you may not know, Alaska is doing the hiring and if you were to apply and get hired you can select an Alaska class and their equipment and base and get the higher first year rate, which is much more than Hawaiian side. All the bickering and bashing won't be necessary then, also, we are in contract negotiations and the pay you are questioning will end with that JCBA.
However, if one accepts the class with Alaska instead of Hawaiian, they may receive a slightly higher hourly rate first year but will not get: widebody aircraft choice, HNL domicile, HRA, PMHP, higher vacation accrual, etc.

Of course all that is subject to change post JCBA.

Choose wisely.
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Old 12-13-2025 | 10:08 AM
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If you’re single, take the first class available from either side..

if you have a wife and kids, factor in taxes, the cost of private school, price of gas, price of groceries. Also factor in highest housing costs in the Country. That wide body pay rate difference is easily overmatched by living outside a high tax State like HI.

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