Hawaiian Hiring FOs
12-13-2025 | 04:40 PM
#1161
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However, if one accepts the class with Alaska instead of Hawaiian, they may receive a slightly higher hourly rate first year but will not get: widebody aircraft choice, HNL domicile, HRA, PMHP, higher vacation accrual, etc.
Of course all that is subject to change post JCBA.
Choose wisely.
Of course all that is subject to change post JCBA.
Choose wisely.
12-13-2025 | 09:01 PM
#1163
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12-20-2025 | 11:54 AM
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12-21-2025 | 01:56 PM
#1167
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717 used to be senior. That was over a decade ago. There used to be CA pay and FO pay with no difference between fleets. Once the pay for widebodies started going up more than 717, more senior people went after the money. The top third, maybe top half of the 717 CA list has been pretty consistent, everything below that is a revolving door.
12-21-2025 | 09:21 PM
#1168
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What percentage of 717 lines have layovers? Being a 717 pilot at Hawaiian was probably the best airline pilot job in the world if you're a family man. It really sucks that Southwest forced you to have overnights on neighbor islands, so it totally makes sense why it'd go stupid junior now.
12-22-2025 | 04:41 AM
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Man, that's still rough. It used to be 100% turns. I can totally see why people would much rather jump to A321 vs. stay on 717 just from the QOL perspective. I would presume the 2-day trips go junior on the 717, right?
12-22-2025 | 05:11 PM
#1170
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Yes 2 days go junior. Day trips with 4 legs or less tend to be the most senior, that or airport reserve.
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