Premium pay, Is that a joke ! You get your own way to Hawaii for the interview and lodging. If hired you get your own way back out to Hawaii and find somewhere to stay on your own dime. No perdiem either. They don't even offer you a standby ticket.

It's simple then don't apply.

I'm interested in Hawiian as well, so please forgive the ignorant questions...

- Is it challenging to commute from island to island? HNL has such a high cost of living... I was thinking the big island.
- Despite the company dragging its feet, how is the union/company relationship?
- How is the QOL, scheduling and on the road? Time off for line holders, hotels, work schedule?

Thanks for any tribal knowledge. I don't make it out there often.

No, inter island commuting is quite easy.


- Despite the company dragging its feet, how is the union/company relationship?

Depends on how you feel about being taken advantage of. If you don't mind it's good, if you do mind it's not good.

- How is the QOL, scheduling and on the road? Time off for line holders, hotels, work schedule?

Our work rules lag way behind the major airlines. Quality of life is way behind the majors. Scheduling for most west coast trips is very tight so if you remain on west coast time no problem. If you stay on Hawaii time they are very tiring. Many are within 20 minutes if legal min rest. Plan on being sleeping by 8 pm Hawaii time and waking up at 0330 Hawaii time to get more than 4 hours sleep. Once on the road, layovers are generally good in terms of flying with nice people. Time off, many line holders hold barely more than 12 days off, reference crap work rules. Hotel standards are above regional airline quality by a bit, behind other majors. There are a few that are downright terrible.



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So, does anyone have contact info for those crashpads??

I love answers like that. Do you feel some kind of Hawaiian Pride for your low wages?

We'll find out how the pilot group feels after the 17th when the strike vote is tallied. I'd be surprised and ****ed if it is below high nineties to strike.
Picketing in HNL on the 25th.

Nice, didn't hear about the 25th? Did I miss an email?

I was hoping everyone would have their votes in the first day at 95%+.... And the union could have said..."ehhh, no need to wait. Strike authorized"

Sadly, in my little opinion, about 15% of the group does feel that way. The rest of us are hoping to fix that with the new contract.

See you guys walking the line on the 25th!!!

Fully Qualified - Partially Paid!!!

It will get fixed, I'm sure of it. Too many people coming here from other airlines now so the days of 'insulated expectations' are gone. Management is just playing out of a very old playbook, and will understand how out-of-date they are very shortly. Expect a scramble from them either during or just after the early June negotiations.

HAL