I agree, way too many guys here that have been **** on over the past 15 years... We all expect something better now.


HAL management is still trying to dilute the pilot group with young, relatively inexperienced new hires, that will not rock the boat. Hopefully it's too little too late. ( no offense to the newhires here, but for the most part, every more tenured Hawaiian pilot knows atleast multiple applicants with more experience that are NOT getting a call or even an interview)

All of the new hires I know and that I've spoken with wish they could have voted, and are very fired up. Some said they will leave too if the contract isn't what it should be.

I'm qualified and have an interview this summer, and I can tell you I won't accept the job if it's still $30/hr. And yes HA has been my #1 for years

It's more like $36. Don't spend it all at once.

Look at the bright side though. You get to live in Hawaii and it's only twice as expensive to live here as compared the "average" cost of one of our peers hubs. Oh... And it's just soooo commutable.

I'm sure they will definitely accept you after their HR trolls read that post and figure out who you are. Is "2766" part of your certificate number?

Don't show your hand too early, buddy, you can only hurt yourself. After HAL signs their new contract I'm sure the second-year pay will make you forget the first very quickly. Wish I was still young enough to enjoy non-bankruptcy era contracts!

If nothing else works out Hawaiian is the place for you. The way we treat our new hire candidates says it all about how we value employees especially pilots. Not a bad place to start a career, but move on to a real airline as quickly as possible.

But what's the DOH of the junior WB captain?

11/02/2009

7 Years, sounds ok, but you can do much better some where else. Personally, at the rate we are going we're not going to be around very long. Our financial success has taught us nothing. We operate with the mentality we did as a little inter island operator of 30 years ago.

Here's an answer to that Cost of Living Question.



Hawaii again rated the worst state for making a living
May 24, 2016, 7:24am HST

James Prichard
Web Editor
Pacific Business News

For the sixth year in a row, Hawaii was rated the worst state for making a living in a new report from MoneyRates.com.

The website's analysis blamed Hawaii's high cost of living — at 68.6 percent above the national norm — and state tax burden, which is one of the highest.

For the sixth year in a row, Hawaii was rated the worst state for making a living in a new report from MoneyRates.com.

For the sixth year in a row, Hawaii was rated the worst state for making a living in a… more

The top five states were listed as Wyoming, Washington, Virginia, North Dakota and Texas. At the opposite end of the scale, Hawaii was followed by Oregon, West Virginia, Maine and California.

"If you have already made your fortune, then by all means go to Hawaii and enjoy its warm climate and spectacular natural beauty," the report says. "However, if you are just trying to make a living, the biggest problem you'll run into is the cost of living. "

At 68.6 percent above the national norm, Hawaii's cost of living is the highest of any state. Zillow reports that, as of March 31, the median home value in Hawaii is $556,200, nearly three times higher than No. 1 Wyoming's median home value of $193,300.

Hawaii's state tax burden is the third-highest.