Commuting to HNL
#21
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Joined APC: Apr 2023
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Can anyone provide insight on commuter policy/bidding/seat guarantee? Is it a seniority system, first come first serve, or dedicated seat?
I'll be living mainland if manage to fly long-haul, not west coast so I don't imagine many other Hawaiian pilots will be commuting from the same airport but you never know.
Thanks
I'll be living mainland if manage to fly long-haul, not west coast so I don't imagine many other Hawaiian pilots will be commuting from the same airport but you never know.
Thanks
On Hawaiian metal a snapshot of the jumpseat is taken at 24 hours prior to departure. In seniority order the first two get it on the 330. Assume the same with the 321neos. Listing within 24 hours of the departure its seniority based, however no matter how senior one person is they cannot bump out anyone who locked it in at the 24 mark.
If the LDMCR on the 330 is not being used most captains are cool with you going down there for most of the flight. Get in the voggers group on FB once you start indoc.
#22
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Joined APC: Feb 2024
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I commuted from LAS. Lots of captains live here for many reasons (mostly taxes). There are a few midwest and east coast commuters but not many.
On Hawaiian metal a snapshot of the jumpseat is taken at 24 hours prior to departure. In seniority order the first two get it on the 330. Assume the same with the 321neos. Listing within 24 hours of the departure its seniority based, however no matter how senior one person is they cannot bump out anyone who locked it in at the 24 mark.
If the LDMCR on the 330 is not being used most captains are cool with you going down there for most of the flight. Get in the voggers group on FB once you start indoc.
On Hawaiian metal a snapshot of the jumpseat is taken at 24 hours prior to departure. In seniority order the first two get it on the 330. Assume the same with the 321neos. Listing within 24 hours of the departure its seniority based, however no matter how senior one person is they cannot bump out anyone who locked it in at the 24 mark.
If the LDMCR on the 330 is not being used most captains are cool with you going down there for most of the flight. Get in the voggers group on FB once you start indoc.
#23
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Joined APC: Apr 2023
Posts: 97
Thanks! So just to be clear, if a seat is open inside of 24 hours and two people are vying for it, the senior person could bump out the junior person if the senior person selects later? When you're looking for flights, do you see what seniority numbers are bidding? Are there enough people commuting from the midwest for this to be a challenge or is it relatively reliable?
you can always see DOH when listing for it on id90
midwest you would be better on UA out of Chicago or Denver. Anyway you look at it it’s probably two leg commute- which I would not recommend- get to freight as soon as possible or move to HI
#24
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
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That is correct in your scenario if both listed within 24 hours of the flight- so as a junior person it is good to list prior to 24 hours.
you can always see DOH when listing for it on id90
midwest you would be better on UA out of Chicago or Denver. Anyway you look at it it’s probably two leg commute- which I would not recommend- get to freight as soon as possible or move to HI
you can always see DOH when listing for it on id90
midwest you would be better on UA out of Chicago or Denver. Anyway you look at it it’s probably two leg commute- which I would not recommend- get to freight as soon as possible or move to HI
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