Airline profiles section
09-01-2013, 08:05 PM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,001
If it aint' broke, don't fix it.
The old layout was good. The new layout is not.
I'm not sure who does updates, but if more time was spent actually updating the airline profiles, and less time on the graphics and layout, this site would be better off.
The info on many of the airlines is out of date - and that's the one's that were 'recently updated'!
The old layout was good. The new layout is not.
I'm not sure who does updates, but if more time was spent actually updating the airline profiles, and less time on the graphics and layout, this site would be better off.
The info on many of the airlines is out of date - and that's the one's that were 'recently updated'!
09-02-2013, 06:40 AM
#13
Permanent Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 660
I am not a fan of the new layout either. But since this websight is free, I won't act like a butt-hurt paying customer over it.
(not directed at anyone here, by the way)
(not directed at anyone here, by the way)
Last edited by OnMyWay; 09-02-2013 at 06:40 AM. Reason: (not directed at anyone here, by the way)
09-02-2013, 06:55 AM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 127.0.0.1
Posts: 2,115
MODS
If the user base can let the site admins know specifically what works and what does not, perhaps they could incorporate that into a new look/feel.
From what I culled:
Content more important than beauty (may apply to wives/husbands too)
From my uneducated general aviation view, I could not discern much of a difference, content wise. I do have adblock installed, so that may help. I did not like having to scroll left/right to see the full pay tables.
From what I culled:
Content more important than beauty (may apply to wives/husbands too)
From my uneducated general aviation view, I could not discern much of a difference, content wise. I do have adblock installed, so that may help. I did not like having to scroll left/right to see the full pay tables.
Last edited by N9373M; 09-02-2013 at 07:37 AM.
09-02-2013, 08:02 AM
#15
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
New layout is not good, plain and simple.
Also, Regionals should be Regionals. We all know who is a regional and who is a major. I dont think it matters to anyone what the DOT says about revenue and classification.
SkyWest, Republic, XJet, Eagle are not Majors/National/LCC. Here is a rule of thumb, if the airline is discussed in the Regional Forum, its a regional.
How much of an ego does someone have to require their airline be listed as a "major" simply because their regional is so large that it is classified as a major by the government. Come on...
Also, Regionals should be Regionals. We all know who is a regional and who is a major. I dont think it matters to anyone what the DOT says about revenue and classification.
SkyWest, Republic, XJet, Eagle are not Majors/National/LCC. Here is a rule of thumb, if the airline is discussed in the Regional Forum, its a regional.
How much of an ego does someone have to require their airline be listed as a "major" simply because their regional is so large that it is classified as a major by the government. Come on...
09-02-2013, 07:47 PM
#17
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: A 320 CA, retired
Posts: 89
Here are the corrections to the Spirit pay as of 8/1/13:
Captain Pay Rates
Aug'13 Aug'14
99.62 101.62
119.49 121.88
124.04 126.52
128.78 131.35
133.68 136.35
138.78 141.56
143.73 146.60
147.73 150.68
152.15 155.20
156.72 159.86
161.43 164.65
166.27 169.60
171.25 174.67
176.40 179.93
181.68 185.32
First Officer Pay Rates
Aug'13 Aug'14
38.50 38.50
70.63 72.05
76.21 77.73
82.22 83.86
88.19 89.96
93.57 95.44
97.97 99.93
101.16 103.19
104.13 106.21
107.13 109.27
Captain Pay Rates
Aug'13 Aug'14
99.62 101.62
119.49 121.88
124.04 126.52
128.78 131.35
133.68 136.35
138.78 141.56
143.73 146.60
147.73 150.68
152.15 155.20
156.72 159.86
161.43 164.65
166.27 169.60
171.25 174.67
176.40 179.93
181.68 185.32
First Officer Pay Rates
Aug'13 Aug'14
38.50 38.50
70.63 72.05
76.21 77.73
82.22 83.86
88.19 89.96
93.57 95.44
97.97 99.93
101.16 103.19
104.13 106.21
107.13 109.27
09-04-2013, 08:57 AM
#19
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 25
IB is listening, please excuse our dust
Thank you everyone for the feedback, even the negative comments, since that’s part of the messy process of getting it right. Hopefully my responses clear up some of the concerns and questions, plus a little insight into what we are trying to do:
+ A little background on the redesign and why it was needed: the original airline profiles were built on a very old content management system (“CMS”) that is now obsolete and had to be retired to be compatible with today’s internet standards and user behavior.
+ While switching to a new CMS platform, we felt it was time to modernize the design to make it easier to find the information (e.g. ability to search for a specific airline profile) while still keeping the structure and actual content exactly the same as the old site.
+ We apologize for any typos or incorrect data that made it into the payscales or profiles during the transition; we had to manually enter the payscale data into the database and clearly some human error occurred in the process. We are cleaning up the errors right now and we appreciate all of you who have submitted updated information via emails and the "have an update" form; please continue to do so!
+ Thank you crewdawg for pointing out that the payscales are now listed left to right alphabetically by equipment type instead of banded by highest pay rate; we are working to fix that right now.
+ A look ahead: In the near future we will consolidate the Airline Pilot Central brand by unifying the site header (the very top of the page) across the forum and profiles, but the overall forum layout and functionality will not change. Also, now that we have the payscale, equipment and domicile data in a database, we can build enhanced searching and analysis tools for you to use e.g. search for highest pay rate for a specific equipment type, or all the airlines that fly 777s. We are working on this now and welcome any suggestions for useful and helpful search tools.
We hope you all will continue to use AirlinePilotCentral as a resource for hiring/pay information, articles (new ones will be published more regularly) and other helpful resources.
Most importantly, the site is only as strong as the contributions from you, so please keep the submissions and suggestions coming in. Thank you.
-Steve (aka Gilbola aka the product/business guy @ IB)
+ A little background on the redesign and why it was needed: the original airline profiles were built on a very old content management system (“CMS”) that is now obsolete and had to be retired to be compatible with today’s internet standards and user behavior.
+ While switching to a new CMS platform, we felt it was time to modernize the design to make it easier to find the information (e.g. ability to search for a specific airline profile) while still keeping the structure and actual content exactly the same as the old site.
+ We apologize for any typos or incorrect data that made it into the payscales or profiles during the transition; we had to manually enter the payscale data into the database and clearly some human error occurred in the process. We are cleaning up the errors right now and we appreciate all of you who have submitted updated information via emails and the "have an update" form; please continue to do so!
+ Thank you crewdawg for pointing out that the payscales are now listed left to right alphabetically by equipment type instead of banded by highest pay rate; we are working to fix that right now.
+ A look ahead: In the near future we will consolidate the Airline Pilot Central brand by unifying the site header (the very top of the page) across the forum and profiles, but the overall forum layout and functionality will not change. Also, now that we have the payscale, equipment and domicile data in a database, we can build enhanced searching and analysis tools for you to use e.g. search for highest pay rate for a specific equipment type, or all the airlines that fly 777s. We are working on this now and welcome any suggestions for useful and helpful search tools.
We hope you all will continue to use AirlinePilotCentral as a resource for hiring/pay information, articles (new ones will be published more regularly) and other helpful resources.
Most importantly, the site is only as strong as the contributions from you, so please keep the submissions and suggestions coming in. Thank you.
-Steve (aka Gilbola aka the product/business guy @ IB)
09-04-2013, 09:58 AM
#20
Don't need that HUD!
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: B777/B787 - Flight Test
Posts: 317
There are two new options for folks to vote on previous feedback and leave new additional commentary about the redesign of the airline profiles section:
1) On the main page, click once on the "Give Feedback" flyout tab on the right side of the screen to bring up a feedback form.
2) Go to the web address https://airlinepilotcentral.uservoic...221225-general and leave feedback there.
1) On the main page, click once on the "Give Feedback" flyout tab on the right side of the screen to bring up a feedback form.
2) Go to the web address https://airlinepilotcentral.uservoic...221225-general and leave feedback there.
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