What are the chances of getting a job as a CFI-I (limited to only instrument students) while I work on the CFI-A?

 

Not even sure if the FAR's allow you to do that, but good luck logging dual given on a VFR day. I suppose you could but you'd be the same as a safety pilot. Anytime the student didn't have the hood on you couldn't log it, so I'd get the CFI first. If this helps FAR 61.183 is eligibility requirements.

 

and don't ever plan on a job without the plain CFI

 

The above is not correct...

The FAR's do allow it. Your initial CFI rating can be any CFI rating...CFII, MEI, etc. You do not have to do the CFI-ASEL as your initial.

I have trained instructors who did the CFII only...they usually did mostly sim/flight trainer work.

There is no reason that a CFII cannot teach instruments in an airplane...and it is ALL loggable as PIC, whether VFR or IFR. Presumably the student would be under the hood in VMC of course, but that is not a requirement for the CFII to log it...instrument instruction includes taxi, takeoff, and landing too. You can log it all.

Some schools will actually encourage new instructors to get the CFII as their initial, because it is an easier checkride.

With that said, I would plan on getting the CFI-A and MEI too. If you can only afford one rating, get the CFI-A first unless you have a guaranteed CFII job.

 

Rick thanks for the correction, guess i've spent to much time away from ga.

 

Ok now i'm confused. When I got my initial it was CFI-MEI, which mean't that I could only teach Pvt-Comm. in Multi-Engine airplanes.

Then I got my CFII which was an Add-On to the MEI. Again, I could only teach Instruments in Multi-Engine.

Then I got the CFI which was another Add-On to all of the above. So now I can teach Single, Multi, and Instrument. Still with me?

The part I don't understand is, how can you get the CFII as the initial if you don't have the CFI, or MEI to back it up as far as what Class of aircraft you can teach in?

 

that does not matter you can teach instruments in any airplane. An MEII doesn't exist, as long as you only teach instruments, don't pull engines and the student already has a license you're good to go. so when you got your CFII you could teach single and multi-engine students.

 

whoa, lets be careful...

i think what rick is saying is that as long as the student is rated in that plane, you can teach instruments.

however, my question is...if that student has a private-multi only and the CFI is instrument only... can the instructor help that person give the complete instruction towards the student's instrument rating?

the reason why i ask this is because (without a PTS in front of me) wouldn't an instrument rating on a multi certificate require a single engine approach? if so, then wouldn't the instructor now be teaching multi engine procedures as well?

 

A non-MEI who is a CFII can give instrument instruction in multi-engine aircraft if the instructor and the student are both rated in the category and class of the aircraft they are flying.

 

thanks for such an informative answer...but it doesn't address my question