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03-28-2010, 12:15 PM
#101
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: CL-65 / Gear Wrangler
Posts: 321
I think it's safe to say we all want to fly because we love to.
I have been flying for a 121 carrier for over 2 years.
I will say this:
We need to do what we can to starve out of existence the carriers that are absolute bottom feeders like Lakes, CommutAir, Colgan, GoJet and Mesa.
The only way to do this is to stop applying for them. When they can't find enough starry eyed dreamers to fill their seats, they either have to pay on par with the other regionals (which is still sad and crappy, just less than the bottom feeders) or they disappear. So either way we as pilots making a career in this business win. The more fractured this industry is, the worse it is for us. Sometimes you have to pick off some of the fruit off the tree and let it rott so the rest of the fruit is healthier and sweeter.
I have been flying for a 121 carrier for over 2 years.
I will say this:
We need to do what we can to starve out of existence the carriers that are absolute bottom feeders like Lakes, CommutAir, Colgan, GoJet and Mesa.
The only way to do this is to stop applying for them. When they can't find enough starry eyed dreamers to fill their seats, they either have to pay on par with the other regionals (which is still sad and crappy, just less than the bottom feeders) or they disappear. So either way we as pilots making a career in this business win. The more fractured this industry is, the worse it is for us. Sometimes you have to pick off some of the fruit off the tree and let it rott so the rest of the fruit is healthier and sweeter.
I think you have a good angle there. I have nothing in return to that good description.
03-28-2010, 02:45 PM
#103
Swearing at the FMA
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: MD-88 FO
Posts: 902
Originally Posted by crewdawg
Base pay of 1,200/month....I can't see how they could even afford to contribute to a 401k. Maybe if they lived with mom and dad and had no debt! Guys who work part time at my job make more than that a month...
I understand they whole paying your dues thing but this company is just taking advantage of these poor people who just need a job. Hopefully a quick upgrade, bust out the 1000 PIC and move on. I guess it could potentially pay dividends by, at least getting the turbine PIC mins which would allow you to throw your app in places....who knows you may get a call. That is about the only up side I can see in that place, and i'm stretching...
I understand they whole paying your dues thing but this company is just taking advantage of these poor people who just need a job. Hopefully a quick upgrade, bust out the 1000 PIC and move on. I guess it could potentially pay dividends by, at least getting the turbine PIC mins which would allow you to throw your app in places....who knows you may get a call. That is about the only up side I can see in that place, and i'm stretching...
I also was a 23 year old captain, and have known many many others who were able to upgrade at 23. Nothing special around here.
Is getting a job at DAL, SWA, FedEx, Allegiant, or AirTran enough upside for this place? No? How about NetJets, FlexJet, or corporate?
03-31-2010, 08:20 AM
#104
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Posts: 62
Originally Posted by Piedmonster
I think it's safe to say we all want to fly because we love to.
I have been flying for a 121 carrier for over 2 years.
I will say this:
We need to do what we can to starve out of existence the carriers that are absolute bottom feeders like Lakes, CommutAir, Colgan, GoJet and Mesa.
The only way to do this is to stop applying for them. When they can't find enough starry eyed dreamers to fill their seats, they either have to pay on par with the other regionals (which is still sad and crappy, just less than the bottom feeders) or they disappear. So either way we as pilots making a career in this business win. The more fractured this industry is, the worse it is for us. Sometimes you have to pick off some of the fruit off the tree and let it rott so the rest of the fruit is healthier and sweeter.
I have been flying for a 121 carrier for over 2 years.
I will say this:
We need to do what we can to starve out of existence the carriers that are absolute bottom feeders like Lakes, CommutAir, Colgan, GoJet and Mesa.
The only way to do this is to stop applying for them. When they can't find enough starry eyed dreamers to fill their seats, they either have to pay on par with the other regionals (which is still sad and crappy, just less than the bottom feeders) or they disappear. So either way we as pilots making a career in this business win. The more fractured this industry is, the worse it is for us. Sometimes you have to pick off some of the fruit off the tree and let it rott so the rest of the fruit is healthier and sweeter.
When they invest the time and energy to evaluate you, it is more of a hit to them than if they just select someone else from their large pool of applications. It also directly communicates to them the reason why.
04-02-2010, 08:05 AM
#107
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 56
Originally Posted by Piedmonster
I think it's safe to say we all want to fly because we love to.
I have been flying for a 121 carrier for over 2 years.
I will say this:
We need to do what we can to starve out of existence the carriers that are absolute bottom feeders like Lakes, CommutAir, Colgan, GoJet and Mesa.
The only way to do this is to stop applying for them. When they can't find enough starry eyed dreamers to fill their seats, they either have to pay on par with the other regionals (which is still sad and crappy, just less than the bottom feeders) or they disappear. So either way we as pilots making a career in this business win. The more fractured this industry is, the worse it is for us. Sometimes you have to pick off some of the fruit off the tree and let it rott so the rest of the fruit is healthier and sweeter.
I have been flying for a 121 carrier for over 2 years.
I will say this:
We need to do what we can to starve out of existence the carriers that are absolute bottom feeders like Lakes, CommutAir, Colgan, GoJet and Mesa.
The only way to do this is to stop applying for them. When they can't find enough starry eyed dreamers to fill their seats, they either have to pay on par with the other regionals (which is still sad and crappy, just less than the bottom feeders) or they disappear. So either way we as pilots making a career in this business win. The more fractured this industry is, the worse it is for us. Sometimes you have to pick off some of the fruit off the tree and let it rott so the rest of the fruit is healthier and sweeter.
Last edited by Tar Heel; 04-02-2010 at 08:07 AM. Reason: Not worth it.
04-02-2010, 12:53 PM
#108
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,825
Direct Entry CA
Ok, just out of curiosity, not that this is an option right now, but do you think Lakes would be worth going to for a direct entry Captain position? The pay is still terrible, but probably livable. What do you think?
04-03-2010, 06:29 AM
#109
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,498
Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Ok, just out of curiosity, not that this is an option right now, but do you think Lakes would be worth going to for a direct entry Captain position? The pay is still terrible, but probably livable. What do you think?
04-07-2010, 09:11 AM
#110
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,825
Just Turned Down Class Date
Lakes just called to offer me a May class date. I was hired last year, but the class date was cancelled. I told them that I couldn't take a First Officer position. They told me to call back if I change my mind.
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