Has anyone recieved a call from ASA?
02-23-2011, 05:48 PM
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I failed my ASEL when on the final landing (Normal Landing Maneuver)I landed 10 ft short of the aimpoint on a 13,500 ft long runway. It was a mis-communication between me and the examiner when he said within 200ft of the aimpoint and actually meant 200ft at or beyond the aimpoint.
So why do I say this? Because I would hate to think that ASA would not even look at my app for one failed checkride. Some examiners view checkride failure as "everyone should have one" and don't think it has any impact on our careers.
Sorry for the threadjack.
So why do I say this? Because I would hate to think that ASA would not even look at my app for one failed checkride. Some examiners view checkride failure as "everyone should have one" and don't think it has any impact on our careers.
Sorry for the threadjack.
03-24-2011, 06:28 PM
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ASA Lowered their minimums on Airline Apps from 1000/200 to 500/50. They did this 6 months ago to "as a test to capture more applications".
Anybody know if this another case of the "capturing more applications" or are they actually lowering their minimum hiring requirements?
BTW: They also posted they are hiring on Climb to 350.
Anybody know if this another case of the "capturing more applications" or are they actually lowering their minimum hiring requirements?
BTW: They also posted they are hiring on Climb to 350.
03-24-2011, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747
I failed my ASEL when on the final landing (Normal Landing Maneuver)I landed 10 ft short of the aimpoint on a 13,500 ft long runway. It was a mis-communication between me and the examiner when he said within 200ft of the aimpoint and actually meant 200ft at or beyond the aimpoint.
03-24-2011, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747
ASA Lowered their minimums on Airline Apps from 1000/200 to 500/50. They did this 6 months ago to "as a test to capture more applications".
Anybody know if this another case of the "capturing more applications" or are they actually lowering their minimum hiring requirements?
BTW: They also posted they are hiring on Climb to 350.
Anybody know if this another case of the "capturing more applications" or are they actually lowering their minimum hiring requirements?
BTW: They also posted they are hiring on Climb to 350.
Also, the problem I posted previously about seems to have been corrected - IE they removed the extra question about passport that I think might have been causing a problem. We'll see for sure if they really are 500/50. Seems awfully low given this hiring climate but who knows. Stranger things have happened. Maybe I'll get a call! Gotta run, lottery drawings are on!
03-24-2011, 08:33 PM
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It's just what their HR has set to their "search criteria" on airline apps. Doesn't necessarily mean they've lowered their mins. Although, they're both connected in my mind.
Hiring climate? There is no hiring climate. There was absolutely nothing going on for 3 years. Most of the people who were hoping for the quick trip to the regionals in 06-08 have since gained many more hours and don't want to work for them (read: regionals). The others that were hoping for a quick trip have since faded away since there's no zero to hero happening right now.
I truly believe that this so called hiring climate is made up. There aren't that many high time pilots willing to work for a regional airline. There are plenty of people out there that meet the mins, they just don't want to do it....
Pinnacle is taking 300 hour wonders again. PDT has hired a few with less than 300.
Once again, my opinion. Which is worth a bum
Hiring climate? There is no hiring climate. There was absolutely nothing going on for 3 years. Most of the people who were hoping for the quick trip to the regionals in 06-08 have since gained many more hours and don't want to work for them (read: regionals). The others that were hoping for a quick trip have since faded away since there's no zero to hero happening right now.
I truly believe that this so called hiring climate is made up. There aren't that many high time pilots willing to work for a regional airline. There are plenty of people out there that meet the mins, they just don't want to do it....
Pinnacle is taking 300 hour wonders again. PDT has hired a few with less than 300.
Once again, my opinion. Which is worth a bum
03-24-2011, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747
I failed my ASEL when on the final landing (Normal Landing Maneuver)I landed 10 ft short of the aimpoint on a 13,500 ft long runway. It was a mis-communication between me and the examiner when he said within 200ft of the aimpoint and actually meant 200ft at or beyond the aimpoint.
So why do I say this? Because I would hate to think that ASA would not even look at my app for one failed checkride. Some examiners view checkride failure as "everyone should have one" and don't think it has any impact on our careers.
Sorry for the threadjack.
So why do I say this? Because I would hate to think that ASA would not even look at my app for one failed checkride. Some examiners view checkride failure as "everyone should have one" and don't think it has any impact on our careers.
Sorry for the threadjack.
However, after going personally through, and administrating so many checkrides events, as well as line checks, I can tell you, that failed event is caused by not one, non-proficient maneuver, but by combination of events that are similar in nature. So if you overshot your landing, and you think that was contributing factor for your failed checkride, I would suggest, that you go over your entire checkride event, and find out way you have been pink "sliped". Good luck in your future aviation endeavors. ;-)
03-24-2011, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlink
My friend, I have been flying for 17 years, and I can tell you, that there are two types of pilots: those that have failed check ride, and pilots that will.
However, after going personally through, and administrating so many checkrides events, as well as line checks, I can tell you, that failed event is caused by not one, non-proficient maneuver, but by combination of events that are similar in nature. So if you overshot your landing, and you think that was contributing factor for your failed checkride, I would suggest, that you go over your entire checkride event, and find out way you have been pink "sliped". Good luck in your future aviation endeavors. ;-)
However, after going personally through, and administrating so many checkrides events, as well as line checks, I can tell you, that failed event is caused by not one, non-proficient maneuver, but by combination of events that are similar in nature. So if you overshot your landing, and you think that was contributing factor for your failed checkride, I would suggest, that you go over your entire checkride event, and find out way you have been pink "sliped". Good luck in your future aviation endeavors. ;-)
You have some very good points, but are totally off base with what I'm trying to say.
Let me try this again. This new hiring criteria seems to be centered around the Dash 8 in Buffalo. And now because of this unfortunate accident, the knee jerk reaction is to not hire anyone who has failed a checkride. My original threadjack was that good pilots fail checkrides - as you know.
So lets start on new thread on failed checks and leave this thread to ASA pilot hiring. Thanks
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