Colgan is no longer a bottom feeder, thats for sure. And the Colgan name days are numbered.

I've looked at the XJET and ASA contracts and I like some of the provisions in each. Combine the 2 and we are talking a pretty decent contract.

Either one by itself is not better than the one we just voted in. As good maybe, but not better.

 

Ahhh yes, at last I have been called a bottom feeder It has been many months since I heard that.




We made improvements, not earth shattering, but improvements none the less...... what have YOU, in your many weeks in the industry, done for for all of us?

 

Easy on our expressjet brothers (and sisters). Let's not forget the hard work and dedication they put in to help us vote in ALPA. Many folks from their pilot group used their time off to answer questions and provide support to us during that critical period.

 

It's nice to know that we can remove ourselves from "bottom feeder" status, finally!

 

Good luck with that.

You guys didn't only create a 'B' scale, you created a 'C' scale with every plane getting different pay. Pay should not be based on number of seats at the regional level, or at any level for that matter.

A 'B' scale at the regional level. That's not just racing to the bottom...that's tying a block of concrete to your foot and jumping into the ocean.

 

Sooo...when jobless you would have gone to Colgan and tied a concrete block to your foot and beat everyone to the bottom, but now that they signed a contract THAT SAVED YOUR *SS (or your brothers and sisters that are furloughed there if you are at Compass now) and will give you your longevity back at mesaba you knock them for it. That is classy right there.... and we wonder why nobody on the outside has any respect for pilots anymore...nothing but me me me hypocrites.

 

Good catch.

Probably not an XJ furlough at all.

 

I think he's XJ furlogh at Compass right now, now tied for second place with ASA as the "princes of the sky"

 

Wow. Congrats on your ability to search my previous posts.

To answer your question.

No. I would not have gone to Colgan. Instead I decided not to go to a company that treats it's pilots poorly, and I have been working a desk job because I have what I think are high standards for the company that I work for.

Their contract didn't save my ass. It hasn't done anything for me. They aren't recalling pilots at XJ. I just don't agree with pilots thinking that the sun finally came out and everything is better. Especially when the pay rates have now been split and SF340 pilot rates are now lower than what they were at XJ.

I talked to the negotiating committee members, it was a compromise. I get that. But it's not the time to say that Pinnacle and Mesaba are now the best regionals out there. It's still the same Colgan and Pinnacle management that has been bending over pilots for the past decade.

I'm not thinking me me me. I'm thinking us us us. My comment may have come across as harsh, it was not intended as such. We are all fighting for the same thing and it's really not the right thing the think that ANY regional is better than another. But some are respectable and some aren't.

 

If you are furloughed XJ then you are displaying a serious lack of awareness to what is going on.

If you are calling Colgan a bottom feeder then XJ is too, because we all have the same contract.

The new rates on the Saab are still the top for that airplane in the industry if you do not look at the XJ grandfathered rates. Did you expect anyone at XJ to take a paycut?

The rates needed to be split, XJ has ridden the backs of the jet FO's for years with that stupid combined rate.

You will be called back very soon and Pinnacle is poised to be a major player in the regional industry.