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Old 05-27-2012 | 01:40 PM
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I heard they are looking for heavy international time...if so, good news!
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Old 05-27-2012 | 02:20 PM
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Sorry, I meant copy and paste a new resume into the box...
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairfun
Any idea how they sort through all the resumes/applications without the usual "Flight Time" grid on the application? The application never asked about an ATP, TPIC, 1st Class Medical etc etc.....

I was assuming they don't go through every online application manually?

Maybe there aren't as many referrals, islanders as I thought??
You might want to go through the application again...
It asks if you have an ATP, First Class, PIC Turbine time, SIC turbine time, etc...
And why you want to work there, and your favorite airplane...
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
You might want to go through the application again...
It asks if you have an ATP, First Class, PIC Turbine time, SIC turbine time, etc...
And why you want to work there, and your favorite airplane...
What happened is I did the first part of the application. (whatever was provided through the job link "apply to"... went through the whole app. hitting next etc... all the way until it said "Thank you for submitting"....

2 days later I received the e-mail providing a link to the rest of the application. It specifically said to use the link AND NOT to try to edit my profile..

That link had the section to enter flight times, ATP, favorite airplane...

Is this your experience also.. I really don't think I missed it on the first application.... Unless my web browser wasn't working correctly...

Good Luck..

The more I speak with people the more it seems that those living in the islands have had pretty good luck getting atleast to the interview stage...
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Old 05-29-2012 | 11:34 PM
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Tanker Driver,

The short answer is yes, they have hired mainlanders, but the longer answer is they usually have significant or tangible ties to the island. Schedules are not conducive to commuting, especially with preferrential bidding. While there are some junior pilots that commute, new hires and junior guys do not generally have as much flexability as they might wish to derrive reasonable commuting schedules. There is a SEA base but it's extremely senior and not a possibility for junior crewmembers. Trips begin and end in HNL so starting a trip from the West coast is not really a viable option either. In general you'll be happier with your quality of life if you're willing to relocate to the island. Hawaii is different....in almost all respects....so relocation is something that requires an understanding of the history, culture, and realities of life in the islands. Previous threads have shed some light on these things; you may wish to do a search on related topics.
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Old 05-30-2012 | 07:06 AM
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Thanks for some good info Captfurlough.
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Old 05-30-2012 | 08:29 AM
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If you are awarded 717 in groundschool, what is the seatlock before you can bid FO 76/330?
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Old 05-30-2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by captfurlough
Tanker Driver,

The short answer is yes, they have hired mainlanders, but the longer answer is they usually have significant or tangible ties to the island. Schedules are not conducive to commuting, especially with preferrential bidding. While there are some junior pilots that commute, new hires and junior guys do not generally have as much flexability as they might wish to derrive reasonable commuting schedules. There is a SEA base but it's extremely senior and not a possibility for junior crewmembers. Trips begin and end in HNL so starting a trip from the West coast is not really a viable option either. In general you'll be happier with your quality of life if you're willing to relocate to the island. Hawaii is different....in almost all respects....so relocation is something that requires an understanding of the history, culture, and realities of life in the islands. Previous threads have shed some light on these things; you may wish to do a search on related topics.

From my research on flight schedules etc.. I agree 100%... From my understanding, on the -330 or -76 you typically do 5-6 3 days trips a month.(what I was told from a friend there). Even if you lived on the West Coast you'd have to come in the night before OR risk taking a flight the same day that gets you in shortly before your scheduled duty. Definitely correct me if I'm wrong..

Also agree with living in the islands.... I've been here 2 years. You definitely get island fever on the neighbor islands. HNL has more going on, but also has a crap load of people/traffic etc. I was at the A.M. Mall the other day. Absolutely insane how packed it was. We've adjusted to living here pretty well. But the "dream" of living in Hawaii is different than the reality at times. We love it but mileage may vary. It's much easier to say "Honey pack up we're moving to HI" than to actually do it.

It seems everyone I've talked to that lives here has applied and interviewed at Hawaiian at some point. I've seen 4 co-workers leave for Hawaiian this year. 2 of them had absolutely no recommendations but did live on the B.I... and a few others interviewed but unfortunately didn't hear back yet... But there has to be a reason they specifically ask if you live in hawaii on the application.
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Old 06-01-2012 | 11:54 AM
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Has anyone received an email invite for phase 3? How bad would it look if you couldn't make it there on 2 days notice and asked for another date (if that's even possible)? If you turn down the phase 3 this time are you pretty much blacklisted? (I have a good reason - on active duty orders as a reservist.) Also, does anyone know how soon they're putting people into classes once hired?
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Old 06-01-2012 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by captfurlough
Tanker Driver,

The short answer is yes, they have hired mainlanders, but the longer answer is they usually have significant or tangible ties to the island. Schedules are not conducive to commuting, especially with preferrential bidding. While there are some junior pilots that commute, new hires and junior guys do not generally have as much flexability as they might wish to derrive reasonable commuting schedules. There is a SEA base but it's extremely senior and not a possibility for junior crewmembers. Trips begin and end in HNL so starting a trip from the West coast is not really a viable option either. In general you'll be happier with your quality of life if you're willing to relocate to the island. Hawaii is different....in almost all respects....so relocation is something that requires an understanding of the history, culture, and realities of life in the islands. Previous threads have shed some light on these things; you may wish to do a search on related topics.
When I interviewed last year they asked me if I would move to Hawaii. I said no...that I would live on the West Coast initially. When they asked why, I said that it would be unreasonable to expect one to take care of their family on a first year salary of about $33,000 per year pre-tax with the cost of living in Hawaii taken into account. Never got a call back from them...I wonder why?
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