Because you broke rule #1 of airline interviews... play their game.

 

Hey Kalyx,
did you just get a phase 3 invite this week?

 

Can someone high-light what and how many phases there are in Hawaiian's process? Also, what has been the typical time line? Thanks!

PtP

 

When I submitted my app. online I immediately received an auto-generated "you have not been selected for an interview at this time," email. Anyone else get this, too? The only question I had to answer "no" to was the 2,500 hours, but I thought that was only preferred and not required.

 

Just a very unedumacated guess, but I assume that the preferred "but not an absolute hard minimum" applies to those who have some tight connections at HAL.... Or military guys???Kinda of a loophole for the head of trainings' cousins nephews brother-in-law...

I happen to well exceed all items and have not received any e-mails, so the 2500 hrs. could be the reason?? What does the website say about having received your application? Mine says "received" as of May 25th. Is yours different?

 

The rumor was 2500 would be minimum. Keep on it for next year though, at least you do not have to worry about interviewing with a d- like king air!

 

Yes.
Palmtree - to my knowledge there are 3. I heard back about 3 months after I applied. I did phase 1 and 2 on two consecutive days back in the fall and then almost didn't hear a peep until now which is 8-9 months later. Phase 1 is a panel interview + PCATD flying profile and Phase 2 was a written test + group interview (if I remember correctly). During those 9 months, I did receive have a single phone call asking one question for clarification from the interview, and one email saying classes were filled at this time (the same email described by others previously).

 

I'm sorry I didn't realize I had signed up for FI.com...........

If I had received the same e-mail as PBone with in excess of the 2500 hrs, then we could have determined it wasn't the 2500 requirement that generated the e-mail.

Maybe he's never applied to an airline before? Or maybe he hasn't experienced how things sometimes work when you know someone high up in a company. (I don't, I'm a regular applicant like everyone else). IMO there has to be a reason they give minimums and attach a "preferred" to them. IMO it it is there as a hard minimum except for those with some really good connections to HAL.

Either way, I am curious as to why he received the e-mail. If someone with more than the minimums receives one I'd be very interested to know that information as well and hopefully they will post here to inform us.

But if you think that I am being a d___ for posting a theory then by all means have at it.

 

The minimum experience level of 2500 hours was increased from 1500 hours because a new hire might become an IRO .... second in command....on an international flight over the middle of the pacific on a widebody....and that's an entirely reasonable minimum. (ie Air France.) If you have less than that amount of time you're just beginning your career...that doesn't mean that Hawaiian would not be interested in you...it just means that you should continue to build experience and keep applying!

Nimubusurfer....commuting from the west coast MIGHT be possible, but it would not be easy or desireable. There's no way of knowing what airplane you'd be assigned to...and the 717 schedule is not conducive to commuting. Even within the widebody fleet, new hires (and junior pilots) don't have the scheduling seniority, muscle or flexibility to build schedules for commuting. Those that have tried are generally disappointed. It's easy to understand why the company prefers a good match....if an employee is happy they're likely to stay, and the considerable training investment is reasonable. If a guy is not happy then everybody loses. Everyone has to be honest in the equation to achieve a good result. There are a number of guys in crash pads that make it work...it's an additional expense to be sure, but being available in the islands is doable and workable for not too much money. In the future, as your seniority improves over a few years, commuting will become somewhat realistic, though never really advantageous. The short term...2 to 3 years..of being in the islands would be a reasonable committment in terms of beginning an excellent career!!!

My advice to everyone....be honest in the application process, in considering what the job is and what it means to you in terms of your personal situation and quality of life. Don't "play the game".....be true to yourself!!!

 

I turned down a phase III and got another chance, albeit 3 months later and extremely fortunate to have it.