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Old 09-29-2011, 07:39 AM
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Even though I'm not even remotely meeting their preferred minimums, I'm still curious why they are hiring 767 FO's? I've been keeping an eye on Vision for a while now and the 767's aren't doing that much flying (civilian side at least, not sure about the CIA flying).

The last hit I got on N766VA was back in mid August and other than a USA3000 sub-service (that got FUBAR'd by the way) and a few sub flights on the MIA-GPT-IAG runs, the plane has just been sitting in ILN or MIA most of the year.

I know there was talk of using it on the PGD-LAS runs that are/were slated to start. Also heard talk about a paper airline called LV Air using their 767s, but an airliners.net forum topic said LV is basically a crock.

Anyone else hear anything?

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Old 09-29-2011, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr View Post
Even though I'm not even remotely meeting their preferred minimums, I'm still curious why they are hiring 767 FO's? I've been keeping an eye on Vision for a while now and the 767's aren't doing that much flying (civilian side at least, not sure about the CIA flying).

The last hit I got on N766VA was back in mid August and other than a USA3000 sub-service (that got FUBAR'd by the way) and a few sub flights on the MIA-GPT-IAG runs, the plane has just been sitting in ILN or MIA most of the year.

I know there was talk of using it on the PGD-LAS runs that are/were slated to start. Also heard talk about a paper airline called LV Air using their 767s, but an airliners.net forum topic said LV is basically a crock.

Anyone else hear anything?

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Hmm. I know two Captains who fly for Vision and one logged over 1,000 hrs. hard time last year (2011) and is on track for approximately the same number of hours this year.

That Sir, is a lot of flying in a 767.

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How can he fly over 1,000/yr in 121?
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That Sir, is a lot of flying in a 767.
Not disagreeing with you since the CIA flying is not public knowledge. Found about three weeks of flying to Brazil from late June to mid July under different numbers but that is basically it other then a few 737 subs or rare JPATS flights.

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It might be joining the other birds in IAD doing the CIA flying. If true, I find it a little "weird" that they are advertising for that kind of flying on the airline's website (even though they don't specifically mention it).

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I guess I'm wondering if there is anything new that will be happening at Vision in the next few months with the B762?

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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr View Post
Even though I'm not even remotely meeting their preferred minimums, I'm still curious why they are hiring 767 FO's? I've been keeping an eye on Vision for a while now and the 767's aren't doing that much flying (civilian side at least, not sure about the CIA flying).

The last hit I got on N766VA was back in mid August and other than a USA3000 sub-service (that got FUBAR'd by the way) and a few sub flights on the MIA-GPT-IAG runs, the plane has just been sitting in ILN or MIA most of the year.

I know there was talk of using it on the PGD-LAS runs that are/were slated to start. Also heard talk about a paper airline called LV Air using their 767s, but an airliners.net forum topic said LV is basically a crock.

Anyone else hear anything?

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I wouldn't put any stock in things read on any airline forum, especially airliners.net. Would you really trust a site where people who think they know everything about aviation and the airline business argue about which airline has the best bulkhead wallpaper?
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:34 PM
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How can he fly over 1,000/yr in 121?
I don't believe you have a "need to know". Not trying to be a wise guy but when you fly for Vision in the 767 operation at IAD, well, a lot of things happen that aren't common knowledge.

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I don't believe you have a "need to know". Not trying to be a wise guy but when you fly for Vision in the 767 operation at IAD, well, a lot of things happen that aren't common knowledge.

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My guess is it isn't all 121 time.
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The job that is posted is only for 767, pt 121 flying that will be supposedly ramping up in the future.
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The job that is posted is only for 767, pt 121 flying that will be supposedly ramping up in the future.
Good to know, thanks.

Are they fencing the airplane off from the 737 guys or what?
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