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Old 07-14-2012, 06:42 AM
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It's "Brian" Williams, and I understand him just fine. You truly are a one trick pony.
Oh, well pardon me all over the place. And I'm sure you can understand him just fine; both figuratively and literally. Btw, stick to the topic please. The shortage is a myth. Only juveniles will believe it and that's all they need to believe it. Have fun living in squalor newbies!
Had a chq jumper into sdf last week. Fo. Kept talking about the"shortage" and how (get this) he WILL (yes, WILL) be an international wide body legacy captain in (wait for it)........ 5(five years).
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:08 AM
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We all hope there will be a pilot shortage and their just might be. However I do not think it will translate to a better situation for pilots. In the past we have learned that when things get tight for the airlines rather that increase wages to attract more pilots they tend to lower hiring minimums.

My guess is that in the near future we will see cadet programs like they have in Europe and foreign pilots flying here for peanuts. China is building massive aviation universities capable of cranking out thousands upon thousands of humble obedient hotel room sharing pilots every year.

See book: China Airborne

In America I believe that the airlines will seek approval for the creation of a new form of pilot certification that greatly abbreviates training through focusing almost exclusively on one transport category air frame from day one.

The airlines will hire people off the street with zero experience and put them in procedures trainers and the simulator. No piston, VFR or solo stuff. Training from day one in the transport category airplane you will fly on the line. Imagine how much you could cut from flight training. The licence would then be restricted to the specific airline position and airframe. The pay off for the airlines would be their dream come true. An imprisoned work force that has absolutely no power at all.

It is hard to say what the future will bring. However I can't see it making things better for pilots. Just more jobs that no one wants.

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Old 07-14-2012, 07:14 AM
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It's "Brian" Williams, and I understand him just fine. You truly are a one trick pony.
Oh, well pardon me all over the place. And I'm sure you can understand him just fine; both figuratively and literally. Btw, stick to the topic please. The shortage is a myth. Only juveniles will believe it and that's all they need to believe it. Have fun living in squalor newbies!
Had a chq jumper into sdf last week. Fo. Kept talking about the"shortage" and how (get this) he WILL (yes, WILL) be an international wide body legacy captain in (wait for it)........ 5(five years).
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot View Post
Oh, well pardon me all over the place. And I'm sure you can understand him just fine; both figuratively and literally. Btw, stick to the topic please. The shortage is a myth. Only juveniles will believe it and that's all they need to believe it. Have fun living in squalor newbies!
Had a chq jumper into sdf last week. Fo. Kept talking about the"shortage" and how (get this) he WILL (yes, WILL) be an international wide body legacy captain in (wait for it)........ 5(five years).
Bwahahahaah!!!!!!! "stick to the topic" from the person who, as usual, made the topic political with a predictable jab at the "liberal media".

Btw, nowhere did anyone make the pilot shortage about legacy airlines. Well, you did, but....

I have little doubt the majors will all have plenty of pilots. But the regionals and foreign carriers are going to be hurting for qualified applicants.
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:01 PM
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Oh boy, they hooked yet another one. I disagree with these so-called "facts". Legacies will shrink. Face it, that 150k education that you got at riddle or dca is gonna bear fruit as a regional captain at best. Btw, how can anyone even understand bryan williams with his deviated septum.....argh.
I didn't get hooked into anything. I got my degree from the US Naval Academy. And you still have yet to come up with any conclusion as to why the pilot shortage might not be real.

Your statement about regional captain is silly. Even if legacies shrink, SOMEONE will still have to be the pilot. SOMEONE is filling that position. I'm sorry that someone wasn't you and you are extremely jaded about that, but it still doesn't give any conclusive evidence as to why there might not be a pilot shortage.
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:02 PM
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We all hope there will be a pilot shortage and their just might be. However I do not think it will translate to a better situation for pilots. In the past we have learned that when things get tight for the airlines rather that increase wages to attract more pilots they tend to lower hiring minimums.
Odd that you would say they would lower minimums, considering the mins are getting bumped higher by the feds. I'm no soothsayer, but it does seem as if all the planets are aligning.
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:53 PM
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In America I believe that the airlines will seek approval for the creation of a new form of pilot certification that greatly abbreviates training through focusing almost exclusively on one transport category air frame from day one.

The airlines will hire people off the street with zero experience and put them in procedures trainers and the simulator. No piston, VFR or solo stuff. Training from day one in the transport category airplane you will fly on the line. Imagine how much you could cut from flight training. The licence would then be restricted to the specific airline position and airframe. The pay off for the airlines would be their dream come true. An imprisoned work force that has absolutely no power at all.

It is hard to say what the future will bring. However I can't see it making things better for pilots. Just more jobs that no one wants.

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you mean like the Multicrew Pilot License (MPL). Already exists in Europe and put into effect at certain airlines such as Flybe, Lufthansa, and soon British Airways Cityflyer.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot View Post
Oh, well pardon me all over the place. And I'm sure you can understand him just fine; both figuratively and literally. Btw, stick to the topic please. The shortage is a myth. Only juveniles will believe it and that's all they need to believe it. Have fun living in squalor newbies!
Had a chq jumper into sdf last week. Fo. Kept talking about the"shortage" and how (get this) he WILL (yes, WILL) be an international wide body legacy captain in (wait for it)........ 5(five years).
"Have fun living in squalor newbies".......wow, another mainline elitist pilot acting as if they are better than all those juvenile regional pukes, vaulting themselves up to tool of the day. You stay classy ma'am
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot View Post
Oh, well pardon me all over the place. And I'm sure you can understand him just fine; both figuratively and literally. Btw, stick to the topic please. The shortage is a myth. Only juveniles will believe it and that's all they need to believe it. Have fun living in squalor newbies!
Had a chq jumper into sdf last week. Fo. Kept talking about the"shortage" and how (get this) he WILL (yes, WILL) be an international wide body legacy captain in (wait for it)........ 5(five years).
Toolette of the day. Something significant is missing from your day to day existence.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Death2Daleks View Post
Odd that you would say they would lower minimums, considering the mins are getting bumped higher by the feds. I'm no soothsayer, but it does seem as if all the planets are aligning.
I'm about 50/50 on the shortage issue. Depends on the day. Where I see the disconnect with you (no judgement) is... "the mob" thinks even IF their is a pilot shortage, the current pilots may still not benefit. And they are MAD.
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