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Old 01-22-2013, 10:34 PM
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Don't try and reason with true believers.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:26 AM
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USAir pay rates were imposed by a bankruptcy court judge. Coincidentally, that rate was the B6 non-Union rate at the time. USAir management convinced the court that they needed to match the non-Union rate to be competitive.

The ONLY reason they still have that rate is USAPA refuses to incorporate the arbitrated seniority list they agreed to in advance. You're right, they're stupid to still be working for those wages.

So what's your excuse?
A number of USAirways east F/O's left when the Nic came out and went to VX as captains when they saw that a HP new hire was placed above them on the Nic. The VX pilots are paid more and good for them. After paying dues to ALPA for 18 years and were told "just take this list for the team and the good of the union."
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:21 AM
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Don't try and reason with true believers.
I'm still waiting for you to show me what regional pays the same rates as Virgin.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:56 AM
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A number of USAirways east F/O's left when the Nic came out and went to VX as captains when they saw that a HP new hire was placed above them on the Nic. The VX pilots are paid more and good for them. After paying dues to ALPA for 18 years and were told "just take this list for the team and the good of the union."
That's a bit oversimplistic and a bit of revisionist history too. What part of binding arbitration isn't binding? Both sides of the Airways merger couldn't agree so you went to arbitration. What was ALPA supposed to do? No I didn't work for Amwest either.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:22 AM
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That's a bit oversimplistic and a bit of revisionist history too. What part of binding arbitration isn't binding? Both sides of the Airways merger couldn't agree so you went to arbitration. What was ALPA supposed to do? No I didn't work for Amwest either.
...just when I thought this thread couldn't get any longer
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:29 AM
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Anyway to get this thread back on track. How about, hiring practices, and competitive mins, the assessment?
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:18 AM
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Any chance a new hire could get based at JFK?
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:21 AM
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I don't believe so. It's a small base and relatively senior.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:23 AM
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Any chance a new hire could get based at JFK?
Nope. There's senior FOs that won't upgrade just to stay away from commuting west.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:31 AM
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Can we change this thread to "latest & greatest" please!!!
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