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Old 05-16-2018 | 01:53 PM
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AG is in a real bind right now. They are still very dependent on the Q400 rout structure to feed AS. It was a great niche in the market. Now it is 2018 and the the ol’ battle ax Q’s life span is coming to an end. What’s more, the flying public wants Jets. Unfortunately for AG, E175s were never designed to be flown in 28 min to 1 hr cycles. Though not their fault, this is going to end up as a big loss for QX.
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Old 05-17-2018 | 12:14 AM
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Is there any reason that AAG would HAVE TO assign all 30 of these E-jets to QX? Couldn’t some of them still go to OO (in addition to the 35 + 8 already planned to go to OO)? In other words, those 30 E-Jets aren’t QX’s - they’re AAG’s and the original plan was to send them to QX, but there’s no hard & fast reason that AAG couldn’t devise a new plan to reallocate them to OO, right?

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The latest public documents show through 2019: 30 E jets with Horizon, 35 E jets plus 8 options with Skywest.
As far as cost goes there is no indication Horizon is more expensive than Skywest. What is different, Skywest very likely has an industry standard CPA that protects their investment in those jets in the form of daily utilization and stage length. In the end it is very expensive for AS to NOT use Skywest on the long routes. I really don't think Skywest cares one way or another if they do short or long legs. Long legs pay well and the financial downside of short legs is mitigated in the CPA.
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Old 05-17-2018 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by fenix1
Is there any reason that AAG would HAVE TO assign all 30 of these E-jets to QX? Couldn’t some of them still go to OO (in addition to the 35 + 8 already planned to go to OO)? In other words, those 30 E-Jets aren’t QX’s - they’re AAG’s and the original plan was to send them to QX, but there’s no hard & fast reason that AAG couldn’t devise a new plan to reallocate them to OO, right?
There is a LOA regarding 30 aircraft for Horizon. Also any aircraft that get delivered cant be sent elsewhere and flown for Alaska.
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Old 05-17-2018 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ASpilot2be
There is a LOA regarding 30 aircraft for Horizon. Also any aircraft that get delivered cant be sent elsewhere and flown for Alaska.
Yet they still did that with 5 or so aircraft in the OO system with HUD/Autoland...
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Old 05-17-2018 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Yet they still did that with 5 or so aircraft in the OO system with HUD/Autoland...
Right. But in the end we will still end up with 30. Also ours don't have a HUD.
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Old 05-17-2018 | 10:25 AM
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Aside from the LOA, what leads your logic in thinking QX will still receive 30 E75s?
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Old 05-17-2018 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fivebyfive
Aside from the LOA, what leads your logic in thinking QX will still receive 30 E75s?
Just being optimistic. I really have no clue what's gonna happen.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 02:39 AM
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As more 175’s are accepted by QX (hopefully......), would you guess that all will remain SEA-based? Or is establishment of another 175 base likely? (PDX??)
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Old 05-18-2018 | 02:54 AM
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Why no HUD/autoland for QX 175’s?

In reading comments here & in seeing announcements about no more service to Mamooth, I can’t help but ask whether 175’s are a good thing for QX or not... Will the shiny new toy fundamentally change who QX is and reduce QX’s ability to feed mainline AS from just about anywhere in any weather? In other words, is QX going to lose its identity through the 175’s and their poor fit for the 28 min jumps?

I want QX to take on 175’s as much as anyone - my biggest & perhaps only reservation about aspiring to work for QX is adverse career progression due to flying the turboprop - but I’m wondering if the overall impact of the 175’s will be negative on QX’s business. Here’s to hoping I’m not seeing the whole picture or looking at this through the right lens??

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Right. But in the end we will still end up with 30. Also ours don't have a HUD.
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Old 05-18-2018 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fenix1
Why no HUD/autoland for QX 175’s?

In reading comments here & in seeing announcements about no more service to Mamooth, I can’t help but ask whether 175’s are a good thing for QX or not... Will the shiny new toy fundamentally change who QX is and reduce QX’s ability to feed mainline AS from just about anywhere in any weather? In other words, is QX going to lose its identity through the 175’s and their poor fit for the 28 min jumps?

I want QX to take on 175’s as much as anyone - my biggest & perhaps only reservation about aspiring to work for QX is adverse career progression due to flying the turboprop - but I’m wondering if the overall impact of the 175’s will be negative on QX’s business. Here’s to hoping I’m not seeing the whole picture or looking at this through the right lens??
If career progression due to flying a turboprop is your main issue with the Q, have no worry. Plenty of guys are getting scooped up by the majors without a single hour of jet time. Guess you’ll have to find another excuse besides the fact you just really want to fly a new jet! 😁. Kiddn

But seriously, being on the Q will not keep you at the regionals because it isn’t keeping people here now is it? Nope they’re off to the green pastures
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