Oh man. Escargot Dawg has made a post which will keep me up all night examining my decisions.

HATE it when he's right.

Seniority is THE reason I keep sinking my costs here rather than go DEC elsewhere.

 

I’ve been meaning to update this as I got a call last week for a class date in September for the jet. 45 days notice exactly. It seems a classmate got their cjo in feb.

 

AkAv8er, I'm hoping to get a similar call soon. When was your interview date? I'm trying to get an idea of what the timing is between interview and class date.

 

I had heard that hiring and training would slow for both aircraft. I will take this as good news that the company is continuing. A little baffling since they have recently announced stopping the jets at 30 total instead of 32.

I keep hearing senior FOs talk about the inability to upgrade right now, so i wondering why we are warehousing more and more pilots. I won’t complain, I welcome anyone who want to come take my airport reserve off my hands.

I know the negative nancy’s will jump on these comments but I’m truly hopeful, positive they anticipate real movement soon.

 

I’m eternal airport reserve as well. Which aircraft and seat are you on?

 

My cjo was in late jan

 

When you got your cjo in Jan what did they give you as a projected class date? Did they provide any updates between then and the phone call you got in early Aug, or was it radio silence for 6+ months? Thanks!

 

I think they projected late summer or fall with the cjo. They were really nice about providing updates when I contacted my poc but were generally very vague. I tried to check in about once a month starting in March due to summer work decisions I had to make. I got passed off to a number of different pocs during the process. The last point of contact mentioned maybe 2020 to start training hence one of my incredulous posts prior. A week or so later I was offered a class date in sept. Point being you just never can tell. I’d advise to take it all in stride as much as possible and just keep studying; definitely stay in touch with them but don’t expect any detailed info. Make them understand your are available and excited to start.

For what it’s worth I’ve heard stories of opportunities coming up for class dates with 1-2 weeks notice; presumably from people dropping out last minute. I got one of those myself for 2 weeks before my class date. It wasn’t worth it for me as I need to study the atp, hadn’t recieved any computer based training yet, etc.- I didn’t want to flunk out. If you are a super quick leaner, dialed on your atp, and/or have jet/glass cockpit experience you could remind your poc of your availability with short notice.

 

My friend who got a CJO in December got an email in June advising of August start. In the interim he’d signed on with another outfit, gotten typed, and by May had upgraded so he’s logging TPIC on E145s.

He heard there was a lack of Horizon flying for new EJet FOs, plus he’d lose two months in training he would’ve earned another 150 hours TPIC staying in place. All to commute to SEA to sit reserve making 1/3 of what he is making. And even though his goal was Alaska or another major, Horizon raised the bar for its Pathways program, so he’s better off staying in place and building TPIC.

Made no sense to continue so he passed on the CJO with enough notice for them to offer the slot to someone else.

He said they were very nice and provided course materials in advance as well as a pilot
mentor.

 

Great info, thanks.

I totally understand your friend's decision. I was told to expect a class in late 2019 or early 2020 for the E175. I'm not available until November anyway so I'll just see what happens.

Side note, I was also told in my interview that the Pathways program is not required to move up to Alaska and that anyone meeting Alaska's requirements could apply and be hired outside of the program. They even mentioned a guy who did it recently. Seems contrary to information posted here.