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Dashdrvr 12-08-2018 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by oldgb (Post 2721376)
Maybe they could start at AS, get put on the seniority list, and then stay at QX. If it works for H and Carlos, why not the little people? :rolleyes:

If one looks at the list quite a number of top seniority people are deferring. It is dipping down in the 7 year longevity mark.

JerTee 12-13-2018 09:55 PM

From the Flight Deck
 
From the Flight Deck

December 13, 2018

From Carlos: Securing a long-term path for you and our company

When I started at Horizon just over a year ago, there were two primary concerns you shared with me most often. The first was the need to stabilize the operation and ensure the long-term future of Horizon. The second was about creating a path to mainline flying so our pilots could enjoy long-term careers at Air Group.

We have come a long way on both fronts this year. By overhauling our pilot hiring and training programs, we overcame the operational challenges we faced the year prior and have a stronger foundation to attract future talent. We are proud to send our current talented and highly qualified pilots to Alaska through the successful Pathways program. As of now, have transferred 25 pilots, which represents 50% of Alaska hires from October to December, and we’re funding 50% in two of the three January classes.

A year after our recovery, not only have we stabilized the operation, but we are securing our future as the first choice for additional flying for Alaska whenever possible. Alaska has requested that we fly between two and three more Q400 aircraft lines per month through the end of next summer and has increased our E175 flying via increased aircraft utilization. We will also now fly 18 flights out of Paine Field on the E175, five more than originally announced. This is all tremendous news, as this flying will stay within Air Group, which means more lines for the many pilots that have requested to fly more.
To support this flying and protect Horizon’s future, balanced pilot staffing will be essential in the new year. Our goal remains to be the largest single source of pilots for Alaska Airlines. As current pilots move to mainline through Pathways in 2019, including some of our most senior pilots, check airmen and instructors, we’ll stay focused on having a consistent flow of new hires coming in and appropriate training staff levels to support them. Of the remaining 100 pilots Alaska plans to hire by April, we will continue to strive to fund up to the 50%, while also ensuring pilots are in line with the competitive minimums that Alaska currently desires.

Varsity 12-14-2018 05:37 AM

50% of two out of three classes in Jan? :confused:

What kind of hokie math is that?

50%*2/3= 33%...

JerTee 12-14-2018 06:25 AM

"ensuring pilots are in line with the competitive minimums that Alaska currently desires".

That's new. Sounds like FOs will have to upgrade and get PIC time to me.

TyWebb 12-14-2018 06:27 AM

50% Oct to Dec... and 50% in 2 of the 3 January classes. So obvious one of those classes is below the 50% mark. I originally read it like you did.

Fixnem2Flyinem 12-14-2018 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by JerTee (Post 2724955)
"ensuring pilots are in line with the competitive minimums that Alaska currently desires".

That's new. Sounds like FOs will have to upgrade and get PIC time to me.

Yep I wouldn’t be surprised if the agreement changes as soon as they realize the list is getting close to FO’s hires in the last 2-3 years. Maybe 1000pic required, which I don’t think is a bad thing

Vanilla 12-14-2018 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 2724958)
50% Oct to Dec... and 50% in 2 of the 3 January classes. So obvious one of those classes is below the 50% mark. I originally read it like you did.

1/7 – 20 AS class slots- 2 Pathways, 18 external.
1/14 – 16 AS class slots- 5 Pathways, 11 external.
1/28 – 12 AS class slots- 9 Pathways, 3 external.


2 / 20 = 10%
5 / 16 = 31%
9 / 12 = 75%

Tricky/deceiving wording on Carlos' part. 5 + 9= 14... 14/28 = 50% when combining those 2 classes :rolleyes: This is like common core math for airline management speak....

Vanilla 01-27-2019 05:03 PM

Latest list shows

8 QX in Feb 4 class
4 QX in Feb 11 class
6 QX in Feb 19 class
4 QX in Mar 4 class

Word around town is there will be 4 AS classes in March

GUFN 03-11-2019 09:46 PM

I read in the Alaska board that there is an Airbus class in April. Any QXers in it?

hawgwild 03-12-2019 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by GUFN (Post 2780408)
I read in the Alaska board that there is an Airbus class in April. Any QXers in it?

There is at least one I know of for sure. 1/15 hire.


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