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Snarge01 11-30-2018 09:56 AM

Latest Pathways Updates
 
Anybody have any info if people are actually moving over to AS via this program? It appears the "flow" might be more of a "trickle?"

Excargodog 11-30-2018 02:42 PM

"Trickle" would be one description....

oldgb 11-30-2018 03:28 PM

Pretty close to 50% of the last few classes at AS have been from QX. Not sure WTF you guys want

Starchkr 11-30-2018 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by oldgb (Post 2716903)
Pretty close to 50% of the last few classes at AS have been from QX. Not sure WTF you guys want

I’d have to agree with this.

Isn’t it common for hiring to slow down during the holidays anyway? Also, Alaska hiring isn’t going to be like it is at the larger legacy carriers. It’s a young group and a relatively small airline.

Also there’s nothing stopping anyone from applying directly to other majors.

Vanilla 12-01-2018 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by Snarge01 (Post 2716748)
Anybody have any info if people are actually moving over to AS via this program? It appears the "flow" might be more of a "trickle?"

Not if but when. 17 moved over in October. 5 in December. Roughly 50% of AS classes will be QX pilots. Sure, the numbers aren't like the bigger legacies. We'll see what 2019 brings in the AS hiring numbers....

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snackysmores 12-01-2018 10:34 AM

So far they've been good at keeping the classes at 50% Qx. Alaska just isn't a big airline and doesnt have a lot of retirements coming up so it will take a while.

Excargodog 12-01-2018 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 2717282)
So far they've been good at keeping the classes at 50% Qx. Alaska just isn't a big airline and doesnt have a lot of retirements coming up so it will take a while.


^^^this^^^^




Alaska
Mandatory retirements:
2019 - 49
2020 - 55
2021 - 57
2022 - 56
2023 - 50
2024 - 60
2025 - 57
2026 - 52
2027 - 77


Figure half will go military. Add 40 slots per year for the projected 2% annual growth, and still you aren't really talking more than 5-6 flowing a month out of a QX group of ~850. That would give the junior guy about a 12 year wait.

Starchkr 12-02-2018 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2717357)
^^^this^^^^




Alaska
Mandatory retirements:
2019 - 49
2020 - 55
2021 - 57
2022 - 56
2023 - 50
2024 - 60
2025 - 57
2026 - 52
2027 - 77


Figure half will go military. Add 40 slots per year for the projected 2% annual growth, and still you aren't really talking more than 5-6 flowing a month out of a QX group of ~850. That would give the junior guy about a 12 year wait.

It’s very difficult to project but consider many pilots will leave QX to go to other majors instead of waiting their turn for the pathway. That will help movement some.

My personal thoughts are, keep applying and interviewing at majors including Alaska(if that’s your goal). Don’t make waiting for the pathway your only hope. If the pathway works out before you get hired on with a major then great.

Excargodog 12-02-2018 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Starchkr (Post 2717753)
It’s very difficult to project but consider many pilots will leave QX to go to other majors instead of waiting their turn for the pathway. That will help movement some.

My personal thoughts are, keep applying and interviewing at majors including Alaska(if that’s your goal). Don’t make waiting for the pathway your only hope. If the pathway works out before you get hired on with a major then great.


I'd make that, "If you get hired on by a major before the pathway works for you, that's great."

Otherwise I pretty much agree with you.

BigfatQ 12-02-2018 07:14 PM

You don't have to stop looking after you get hired by Alaska


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