Horizon Pathway Program Timeline
06-06-2019, 07:29 PM
#11
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 13
Originally Posted by DashAviator
Yeah, I hear you. I've been punished for my age, punished for my experience, and punished for my extremely bad timing (hired just prior to 9/11).
I don't think the 2000 hours of Part 121 time and 1000 hours Part 121 PIC is a bad idea overall, BUT the Pathways program should credit previous Part 121 time and/or significant military, corporate, or Part 135 experience. Requiring that the pilot have 2000 hours at Horizon is just a blatant attempt to keep people at Horizon for 5-7 years. Also, I've heard that Alaska won't take Horizon pilots that apply OUTSIDE the Pathways program.
As usual, Horizon management just ignored any input from the union or the pilot group.
I've chosen NOT to participate in the Pathways program, even though I meet the minimums. I would prefer to make my own choice with respect to my next job (as in , the first interesting opportunity that comes up). The changes to the Pathways program really bite for the guys and gals that want to go to Alaska, however. Many of our pilots live in the Pacific Northwest and want to stay here for their families.
I don't think the 2000 hours of Part 121 time and 1000 hours Part 121 PIC is a bad idea overall, BUT the Pathways program should credit previous Part 121 time and/or significant military, corporate, or Part 135 experience. Requiring that the pilot have 2000 hours at Horizon is just a blatant attempt to keep people at Horizon for 5-7 years. Also, I've heard that Alaska won't take Horizon pilots that apply OUTSIDE the Pathways program.
As usual, Horizon management just ignored any input from the union or the pilot group.
I've chosen NOT to participate in the Pathways program, even though I meet the minimums. I would prefer to make my own choice with respect to my next job (as in , the first interesting opportunity that comes up). The changes to the Pathways program really bite for the guys and gals that want to go to Alaska, however. Many of our pilots live in the Pacific Northwest and want to stay here for their families.
Our CP said pilots with lots of outside time can still apply externally
06-07-2019, 05:35 AM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: B777, Right Side or Panda-side. Or Pandacide.
Posts: 119
Originally Posted by wannabee
You’re a lineholder and you only fly 350 hours per year?
06-07-2019, 05:43 AM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: B777, Right Side or Panda-side. Or Pandacide.
Posts: 119
Originally Posted by Stinger6
A typical month (for me) is 70+ hours credit and 40+ hours block. And THAT block is so inefficient and "un-commutable" that I drop trips to avoid single days off which, while in base, are not at home.
06-07-2019, 07:09 AM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 268
Originally Posted by Stinger6
A typical month (for me) is 70+ hours credit and 40+ hours block. And THAT block is so inefficient and "un-commutable" that I drop trips to avoid single days off which, while in base, are not at home.
Reserve captains in the Q400 in Portland: How much are you flying? Thanks!
06-07-2019, 06:36 PM
#15
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 65
Originally Posted by Ala5ka
Maybe I will.. then at least I could fly longer routes in the 175 instead of flying Seattle to Portland to San Fransisco to Portland in a 321..
06-08-2019, 09:15 AM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: B777, Right Side or Panda-side. Or Pandacide.
Posts: 119
Originally Posted by DashAviator
Stinger, are you a captain or an FO?
FO, just bid PDX DH4 CA because if I'm going to not fly, I may as well make $30+/hour more to not do it...
Kidding...sort of...
I was going to hold off for the E, but the problem is I want to get to 1000 121 PIC before my pathways number and my 2000 QX comes up to maybe give me more options.
And so therefore...
Reserve captains in the Q400 in Portland: How much are you flying? Thanks!
FO, just bid PDX DH4 CA because if I'm going to not fly, I may as well make $30+/hour more to not do it...
Kidding...sort of...
I was going to hold off for the E, but the problem is I want to get to 1000 121 PIC before my pathways number and my 2000 QX comes up to maybe give me more options.
And so therefore...
Reserve captains in the Q400 in Portland: How much are you flying? Thanks!
06-08-2019, 08:56 PM
#18
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by DashAviator
Stinger, are you a captain or an FO? I'm a mid-level line holder on the captain side (Q400) and I'm flying my tail off. I've been tempted to bid reserve just to get some time off, but this experiment ended badly the last time. When the company is short-staffed the reserves often end up working MORE than the line holders, and with really bad schedules (numerous circadian swaps and extensions).
Reserve captains in the Q400 in Portland: How much are you flying? Thanks!
Reserve captains in the Q400 in Portland: How much are you flying? Thanks!
In all honesty though I don’t feel like I can complain. I love my job and I’ve had tons of time off. Reserve isn’t bad at all while living in base. Also I feel like it’s this way right now but as we all know this can all change in a month. I’m the type that tries to come to work, enjoy myself while I’m here, and be thankful that I get to be one of the lucky few to do this job. I definitely have more to be thankful for than to complain about.
06-09-2019, 10:27 AM
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 186
Originally Posted by thwhite2000
Fake news.
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