Horizon Retiring the Jets in Favor of the Q400
04-24-2008, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
They want to get rid of all the 700s and 200s and be an all 400 fleet within 24 months.
And anyways, maybe Horizon will set an example for the regional industry and remind other airlines that it is possible to operate an all-turboprop fleet productively. I'm sick of seeing the CRJ suck up 2x the fuel to fly the same amount of people across a state line.
04-24-2008, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyteam18
When did Horizon have -200s??
And anyways, maybe Horizon will set an example for the regional industry and remind other airlines that it is possible to operate an all-turboprop fleet productively. I'm sick of seeing the CRJ suck up 2x the fuel to fly the same amount of people across a state line.
And anyways, maybe Horizon will set an example for the regional industry and remind other airlines that it is possible to operate an all-turboprop fleet productively. I'm sick of seeing the CRJ suck up 2x the fuel to fly the same amount of people across a state line.
04-24-2008, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FL410
Don't worry Shaun, I called Pat. You, Adam, Danny, TJ and I can have our instructing job back but this time we have to pay him to have the opertunity to fly for him.
Dude, this sucks. Hopefully some options will be used.
Dude, this sucks. Hopefully some options will be used.
04-24-2008, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Horizon had -200s (DHC8) for years up until just recently. I remember flying on one from SEA-YVR back when I was in high school. I think most if not all have found there way to Commutair.
My bad. Identifying DHC and CRJ is crucial when just using -200. More people refer -200 to the CRJ on these forums.
04-24-2008, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Horizon had -200s (DHC8) for years up until just recently. I remember flying on one from SEA-YVR back when I was in high school. I think most if not all have found there way to Commutair.
We still have 12 or so Q200s. The company is trying to market these as we speak.
They are not expected to be gone before 2009.
04-24-2008, 09:56 AM
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This may be a good thing in the long run. If all regionals transition to prop fleets some good things can happen.
1. Regionals will fly shorter routes.
2. Longer routes will be serviced by larger jets (mainline carriers).
3. More people will get jobs flying bigger jets.
4. The airlines can all be more profitable.
1. Regionals will fly shorter routes.
2. Longer routes will be serviced by larger jets (mainline carriers).
3. More people will get jobs flying bigger jets.
4. The airlines can all be more profitable.
04-24-2008, 10:00 AM
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The BEAVER jet. . .
Originally Posted by FedUp
well I'm glad they spent the money to have the rj's painted in the sports colors.....
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the the RJ's that came back from Frontier had to be painted regardless so cost of repainting them was taken care of by Frontier as part of the contract, college colors or not.
04-24-2008, 10:10 AM
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I'm sorry to hear this guys. I really do hope there will be no furloughs. The biggest shock to me is to hear that as the 700's leave it doesn't sound like they are anxious to replace them with anything. This sounds like a classic case of QX not thinking outside of the "500 mile bubble". Conspicously absent from the earnings report was the issue of contracting out with a third party operator. I think this would be a huge mistake in my opinion. We'll see in the comming months. Times should be interesting. Just Remember to try and not let your happiness be tied to an airline...
04-24-2008, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ebl14
This may be a good thing in the long run. If all regionals transition to prop fleets some good things can happen.
1. Regionals will fly shorter routes.
2. Longer routes will be serviced by larger jets (mainline carriers).
3. More people will get jobs flying bigger jets.
4. The airlines can all be more profitable.
1. Regionals will fly shorter routes.
2. Longer routes will be serviced by larger jets (mainline carriers).
3. More people will get jobs flying bigger jets.
4. The airlines can all be more profitable.
Majors still want MORE 90 seaters, and probably 70 seaters. The SKW President reiterated today that there are NO plans to add new turboprops to the fleet.
There are several MAJOR projects to build NEW 70/90 seat RJ's with advanced technology materials, systems, and engines (geared-turbofans).... Mitsubishi, China, and Russia.
Nobody is designing all-new turboprops...the geared turbofan engine will probably close the efficiency gap with the turboprop engine to the point that the extra complexity, low altitude, and slowness of the turboprop is not worth it.
Last edited by rickair7777; 04-24-2008 at 10:22 AM.
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