Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional > Horizon Air
Horizon Retiring the Jets in Favor of the Q400 >

Horizon Retiring the Jets in Favor of the Q400

Search
Notices
Horizon Air Regional Airline

Horizon Retiring the Jets in Favor of the Q400

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-24-2008, 02:42 PM
  #31  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,271
Default

Originally Posted by lidarheadache View Post
I wonder what ever happened to the geared turbofans that both GE and P&W were so hot on in the late 80's when fuel prices went through the roof? They both had test a/c with one on the back that was about 30-35% more efficient and met noise limits. They were supposed to solve the TP's speed limitations, weren't they?

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propfan
PW is currently testing a narrow-body sized geared turbofan, and will be certifying it in the upper-RJ thrust range. The bombardier C-series and the Mitsubishi RJ will both use this engine, and I'm betting others will get on board fast.

On that note, the Mitsubishi RJ looks pretty good on paper...they fixed most traditional RJ pax annoyances and threw in a lot fuel-effecient technology.

I think GE and Rolls are holding out for more technology before comitting to GTF vs. Open Rotor, but they will have to decide before the Boeing and Airbus next-gen narrowbody designing starts in earnest.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 04-24-2008, 03:24 PM
  #32  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 167
Default

Where will all those CRJ's be going???
whoareyou310 is offline  
Old 04-24-2008, 03:35 PM
  #33  
Gets Weekends Off
 
cfii2007's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,213
Default

Overseas........India probably.
cfii2007 is offline  
Old 04-24-2008, 05:12 PM
  #34  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,271
Default

Originally Posted by whoareyou310 View Post
Where will all those CRJ's be going???
ANA has signed up for the MRJ, which indicates that they think it's a good product...they would NOT buy something just because it's made in Japan.

The Russian and Chinese RJ's will likely find initial customers domestically, but I think both will be certified to FAA standards, which will ensure their acceptance anywhere in the world.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 04-24-2008, 07:26 PM
  #35  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Posts: 393
Default

Watch out world! We at Horizon are shrinking our way to world dominance!


PS

Hi, LaMar!
Fokker28 is offline  
Old 04-24-2008, 07:55 PM
  #36  
First Rule of Fight Club
 
BoredwLife's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: My seat smells like cat pee
Posts: 1,536
Default

Originally Posted by Fokker28 View Post
Watch out world! We at Horizon are shrinking our way to world dominance!


PS

Hi, LaMar!
HAHAHAHHAA

Seriously this is their motto. Gerheart told me himself. Then I laughed and walked away.

Last edited by BoredwLife; 04-24-2008 at 09:43 PM.
BoredwLife is offline  
Old 04-28-2008, 04:56 PM
  #37  
Gets Weekends Off
 
mistarose's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Furloughed
Posts: 275
Default

Sounds like the June Q400 class was canceled but the class of 8 starting this thursday (Q4) is still scheduled to start.
mistarose is offline  
Old 04-28-2008, 05:01 PM
  #38  
First Rule of Fight Club
 
BoredwLife's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: My seat smells like cat pee
Posts: 1,536
Default

Originally Posted by mistarose View Post
Sounds like the June Q400 class was canceled but the class of 8 starting this thursday (Q4) is still scheduled to start.
That is officially true. I have a friend in the may class. All I can say is I guess you can get in and work for about a year then possibly be furloughed. My guess is that there is still more info to come.

Rumor has it that there is a survey out asking Alaska pilots what their thoughts are on bringing a third party in, since HORIZON is losing money and thats the reason they are having to fight for a raise. If they got someone cheaper to fly it they could get their money back.

OHHHH MANNNNNNNN Im stirring the pot on this one.
BoredwLife is offline  
Old 04-28-2008, 06:35 PM
  #39  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,271
Default

Originally Posted by BoredwLife View Post
That is officially true. I have a friend in the may class. All I can say is I guess you can get in and work for about a year then possibly be furloughed. My guess is that there is still more info to come.

Rumor has it that there is a survey out asking Alaska pilots what their thoughts are on bringing a third party in, since HORIZON is losing money and thats the reason they are having to fight for a raise. If they got someone cheaper to fly it they could get their money back.

OHHHH MANNNNNNNN Im stirring the pot on this one.
That's the problem with being highly compensated in the regional world. Colgan now operates Q400's...how's the horizon scope?

It will be VERY interesting to see how the AK pilot group deals with this issue. Senior pilot groups generally have a poor record when it comes to taking care of their regional affiliates...hopefully they will do the right thing.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 05-05-2008, 01:12 PM
  #40  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Soon to be Ex Dash-Trash
Posts: 270
Default

Horizon is gonna be a horrible place to be within 6 months. 20 Q400's will not be exercised. My guess is 170 furloughs.
crjav8er is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
vagabond
Horizon Air
21
02-04-2008 07:49 AM
jelloy683
Regional
13
08-14-2007 02:54 PM
jelloy683
Major
4
08-13-2007 05:24 PM
Lbell911
Regional
10
07-06-2007 03:17 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices