Horizon Retiring the Jets in Favor of the Q400
04-24-2008 | 02:42 PM
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I wonder what ever happened to the geared turbofans that both GE and P&W were so hot on in the late 80's when fuel prices went through the roof? They both had test a/c with one on the back that was about 30-35% more efficient and met noise limits. They were supposed to solve the TP's speed limitations, weren't they?
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propfan
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propfan
On that note, the Mitsubishi RJ looks pretty good on paper...they fixed most traditional RJ pax annoyances and threw in a lot fuel-effecient technology.
I think GE and Rolls are holding out for more technology before comitting to GTF vs. Open Rotor, but they will have to decide before the Boeing and Airbus next-gen narrowbody designing starts in earnest.
04-24-2008 | 05:12 PM
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ANA has signed up for the MRJ, which indicates that they think it's a good product...they would NOT buy something just because it's made in Japan.
The Russian and Chinese RJ's will likely find initial customers domestically, but I think both will be certified to FAA standards, which will ensure their acceptance anywhere in the world.
The Russian and Chinese RJ's will likely find initial customers domestically, but I think both will be certified to FAA standards, which will ensure their acceptance anywhere in the world.
04-24-2008 | 07:55 PM
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04-28-2008 | 05:01 PM
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Rumor has it that there is a survey out asking Alaska pilots what their thoughts are on bringing a third party in, since HORIZON is losing money and thats the reason they are having to fight for a raise. If they got someone cheaper to fly it they could get their money back.
OHHHH MANNNNNNNN Im stirring the pot on this one.
04-28-2008 | 06:35 PM
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That is officially true. I have a friend in the may class. All I can say is I guess you can get in and work for about a year then possibly be furloughed. My guess is that there is still more info to come.
Rumor has it that there is a survey out asking Alaska pilots what their thoughts are on bringing a third party in, since HORIZON is losing money and thats the reason they are having to fight for a raise. If they got someone cheaper to fly it they could get their money back.
OHHHH MANNNNNNNN Im stirring the pot on this one.
Rumor has it that there is a survey out asking Alaska pilots what their thoughts are on bringing a third party in, since HORIZON is losing money and thats the reason they are having to fight for a raise. If they got someone cheaper to fly it they could get their money back.
OHHHH MANNNNNNNN Im stirring the pot on this one.
It will be VERY interesting to see how the AK pilot group deals with this issue. Senior pilot groups generally have a poor record when it comes to taking care of their regional affiliates...hopefully they will do the right thing.
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