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Old 01-22-2016, 01:07 PM
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Good afternoon,

Are any new hire FOs getting placed in ANC?

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Old 01-22-2016, 01:16 PM
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Probably not. Junior guy is 4/15, nobody's bidding out, and there are several with bids in to go.
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Thanks a lot!
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ANC is a very stagnant base. You won't get it out of training, and when you do get it you will be permanently on reserve and NEVER fly.

If you're considering coming here right now, you aren't very well informed.
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Or... Very smart to ask and make himself better informed. I'd wager it's the latter.

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ANC is a very stagnant base. You won't get it out of training, and when you do get it you will be permanently on reserve and NEVER fly.

If you're considering coming here right now, you aren't very well informed.
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45 pages of reasons to avoid Horizon
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Old 01-22-2016, 09:02 PM
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Not a bad place to be. Good chance of jet flying with a pretty good set of work rules and flying in the NW. Avoid ANC base unless it is opened up for more flying or if you really like Xbox.


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Originally Posted by pdxsandor View Post
Not a bad place to be. Good chance of jet flying with a pretty good set of work rules and flying in the NW. Avoid ANC base unless it is opened up for more flying or if you really like Xbox.


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Compared to Skywest and Compass we have:

-Lower pay, lower min guarantee
-no signing bonus
-no commuter hotels
-no daily min guarantee
-no leg by leg cancellation pay
-no jets
-no long call
-high STD payments
-$700 uniforms
-1 year reserve for new hires, perpetual endless reserve as captain upgrade


What we DO have but are giving away for free to the company after this TA passes:

-Awesome SAP bidding
-Highest 76 jet rates


If you are considering coming here thinking you will fly a jet, you WONT unless you get here after Feb 2017. You will be assigned the Q400 until then and the seat lock is 4 years. You will upgrade before the seatlock is over. You will never hold jet captain seniority, ever (unless you want to wait 15 years.)

Maybe you'll get here just in time for our next round of concessions in 2018.
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What are the jet rates and what is the junior base, then?
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Old 01-23-2016, 08:22 AM
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The last couple of classes have had people end up in PDX, MFR, SEA, GEG, and BOI, so there really isn't a single junior base right now.

As for the jet rates, the TA we're currently voting on has us flying jets for our current turboprop rates (with annual 1.5% increases), but the jet rates in our existing contract are about 10% higher than the turboprop rates.

One other thing worth mentioning is that starting in 2017 (assuming the TA passes) we're effectively creating a "B scale" by forcing new hires to use an insurance plan that has no annual premiums (the existing plan is all of $17/mo for one person), but a much higher deductible if you actually have to use the insurance.
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