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Old 04-28-2017 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Two ways this fleet review could go. One way is we place an order for a 190 replacement and an order for widebodies. The other is we transition to an all 320/321 fleet and concentrate on the domestic market. It's anyone's guess at this point.
I don't see a need for widebodies just because we ordered a 190 replacement.

Option 3, order a 190 replacement and retire some of the oldest A320s. Done.
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Old 04-28-2017 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
I think any slow in growth limits a B6 career due to the low retirement numbers. Growth is the only advancement we have. Thats the sentiment I picked up on anyway- not low informational pilot, just disappointed pilot.
Don't fret dears...there will be more orders...and more deferments...and more orders. If a few planes getting shifted is a major disappointment for you, you should have entered the postal service for a steady career.
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Old 04-28-2017 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Growth stops? Where do you come up with this stuff?

There was the low information voter, now the low information pilot?
Well, Robin told our new hire class that wall street wanted us to stop growing, so there is that.

Also they are faced with a choice. Growth hasnt been rewarded lately. Also it is unlikely they will be able to staff the airline at its current size in a few years. Stop buying airplanes, take the staffing hit and increase margins and try to ride it out.

The other option is they could try to grow quickly enough to match the big 3 in seniority growth and add widebodies.

Which do you think is more likely?


Something else to keep in mind is the percentage of year 1-10 guys at the big 3 vs all the year 12 guys at B6 in the next decade. They may have a payroll advantage on us. Its gonna be a bumpy ride.
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Old 04-28-2017 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Don't fret dears...there will be more orders...and more deferments...and more orders. If a few planes getting shifted is a major disappointment for you, you should have entered the postal service for a steady career.
I was referring to the guy that posted before Softy.
To be disappointed, Id have to possess expectation in B6- I lost that 18 months ago.
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Old 09-25-2017 | 05:30 PM
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"JetBlue to Decide on Transatlantic Flights by Year's End, CEO Hayes Says"

https://www.thestreet.com/story/1431...ayes-says.html
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Old 09-25-2017 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Well, Robin told our new hire class that wall street wanted us to stop growing, so there is that.

Also they are faced with a choice. Growth hasnt been rewarded lately. Also it is unlikely they will be able to staff the airline at its current size in a few years. Stop buying airplanes, take the staffing hit and increase margins and try to ride it out.

The other option is they could try to grow quickly enough to match the big 3 in seniority growth and add widebodies.

Which do you think is more likely?


Something else to keep in mind is the percentage of year 1-10 guys at the big 3 vs all the year 12 guys at B6 in the next decade. They may have a payroll advantage on us. Its gonna be a bumpy ride.
Did Robin mention anything about replacing the E190 with the CSeries???? Where are we with that decision?
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Old 09-25-2017 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Did Robin mention anything about replacing the E190 with the CSeries???? Where are we with that decision?
There's an article with him supporting BBD in their fight with Boeing citing the great product and comfort/competitive advantage the C series provides. Whether he's using it as leverage with embraer (we need the CS to remain not tariffed for the E2s to be offered as competitively as embraer will offer them if the CSs remain competitive). So either way, he needs to support BBD in this fight. Whether or not we will get them, or when we will announce or fleet plan, is anyone's guess. I hope we do. BBD>Emb.
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Old 09-25-2017 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Did Robin mention anything about replacing the E190 with the CSeries???? Where are we with that decision?
Was told I'm ground school last week that it'll be the E2, C-series or all Airbus fleet. Announcement in the Spring...not by the end of 2017.
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Old 09-25-2017 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Was told I'm ground school last week that it'll be the E2, C-series or all Airbus fleet. Announcement in the Spring...not by the end of 2017.
LoL! Of course it will.

If we merge it'll be with spirit, frontier, or Alaska... if we get bought it'll be by SWA united or delta.



Sorry sarcasm not directed d at you. I just laugh when they say stuff like that.
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Old 09-25-2017 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
There's an article with him supporting BBD in their fight with Boeing citing the great product and comfort/competitive advantage the C series provides. Whether he's using it as leverage with embraer (we need the CS to remain not tariffed for the E2s to be offered as competitively as embraer will offer them if the CSs remain competitive). So either way, he needs to support BBD in this fight. Whether or not we will get them, or when we will announce or fleet plan, is anyone's guess. I hope we do. BBD>Emb.
Yep - just found the article:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/jetblue-defends-bombardier-in-spat-with-boeing-441478/

Would love to see the CSeries in JB colors. Here's a good picture of the first CS300 for Korean:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Korean-Air/Bombardier-CSeries-CS300-BD-500-1A11/4601363
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