What Is Going On?
 

Something is up for sure. Management says we're in a great position, no new hiring needed, adding new destinations, NOT taking additional aircraft deliveries and now cancelling existing routes from the system?

We're getting set up for something. I see a merger or sale on the horizon. Things are certainly strange. Q2 earning are going to be the "Big Tell" at what lies in the future for B6. Record profits means this place is already sold. Hold on to your CSPP and hope for the best.

-Bubs

Which routes?

Jfk - TPA
Jfk - SDQ
BOS - RSW
Bos - tpa
Bos - mco

One daily roundtrip pre cancelled for the rest of the summer. Unbelievable. This is getting scary. Sitting at the bottom of this list is a roller coaster ride for sure.

B6 has been on the radar of many suitors for quite some time. The question is which suitor will win in the end. I think WN could easily win.

I doubt WN wants an a$$load of Airbii.

My guess would be AA. They'd probably love to grab all those Buses and swallow another competitor on the east coast/Caribbean routes.

Was about to post the same thread. Everyday my B6 commute flight from ORD is CX'd. Flying with reserves that are getting JA'd. Waiting for ACs to come from the hanger for MX all the time. It's really strange. It's like they're trying to run it into the ground. Sorry but CX'ing a bunch a flight segments for the entire summer is a really bad sign.

My guess is that some college intern came up with this great(sarcasm) idea to cancel routes to help with staffing, instead of you know just hiring more guys. But am I worried that the place will close it's doors soon, no. It's not good , it's not bad, it's just another day in the life of a poorly managed airline .

Close doors? Not likely, but furlough is definitely a possibility.

So we are short pilots and you think furloughs?
Let's all relax a little. They tried to run super short and cut the mx budget and bam you have a daily irop.
This is standard jetblue things work on paper like otp or 35 min turns but in reality well you know.

I'm sorry but we are far away from the F word.
And no we are not going to close the doors.
But if we do some of you might have some great careers in acting because the drama acting has been perfected on here.

Once again they thought they could get away with something, think the last union vote or anything they have done and it simply does not work. But the company is making more money now than ever so we are far from closing the doors.

Now a merger or a big clean out of mgt might just happen.

Something needs to happen because right now we are not doing so great.

Sadly this is most likely the case. Not the closing the doors part. Just the poorly run part.

Are they nixing the routes, the round trip, or is one daily round trip all they do on those routes thence doing away with the route? Please, pardon my ignorance and all the questions, and thanks for the info.

Just one round trip per day. Not the routes. But we've already sold seats on those planes.

Gocha. Thanks!

Exactly

This is the most flights we have ever done and they thought they could do it on the cheap, sounds like the uniforms. Something has to give, so some summer flights to FL get sliced as well as sdq.
Not sticking up for the company but is anyone shocked? Heck I am surprised they aren't just going to keep trying without making the cuts and thinking it will work.

Furlough ??? Come on man it's 10 flights mostly to Florida in the Summer time temporarily. Don't get me wrong I am not defending the companies actions, but we are no where near furlough territory.

Sidenote : who thinks this might be a scare tactic by the company in our response to the up coming picketing plans by the union ?

They are incompetent that is all there is.
Again they think they can do stuff cheap with min budget and staff and everyone (mgt)sits around and goes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eO33o0se_Aw

Also we have a video from the las IT meeting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vh3tuL_DVsE

Thanks for the laugh. Totally agree with you btw.

I guess one of the things that worry me is the product itself. The company always had the Brand to cover up its incompetence, but now its garbage. I won't even commute on my own airline so I wonder how pax feel

But I also wonder, whats the basis for them being more cheap than ever the last year? Is it because they're getting ready to pay us? Driving up the stock price to get a max deal on a buyout/merge? Or is it things are so bad internally, they're just gonna run it into the ground? Just from my 20 years in 121, I see a lot of red flags

It's scary and at the same time causes sadness to see these type of comments, as a new hire it's depressing to see that you didn't take the right desicion by coming here, and things continue to move in a bad direction as everyone senior at b6 suspects.

Guys this sounds like a negotiating scare tactic from the outside looking in. Now maybe these (small) things would've happened anyway but the company will certainly use it to their advantage in the negotiating rhetoric. Don't let it affect you. Don't accept less because pilot contracts have never killed or saved an airline on their own. Watch the problems magically solve themselves once an industry standard contract is signed.

Scary? Are u kidding me? Lol... you're in the wrong industry.

Watch the problems magically solve themselves once an industry standard contract is signed.[/QUOTE]

The problems have consistently been there for years, but now there's less Blue Goo covering it up.

Something is brewing...

How do you add new routes and destinations without taking the additional aircraft you need to operate them? ATL. Cuba. The 190 is a big part of the reason things aren't being executed. They're obviously done with it. I think you'll see a sale or merger announcement soon, and if not, then an E2 announcement is coming or we're going to an ALL Airbus fleet.

-Bubs

We've been getting additional aircraft. If you haven't noticed we have a crap ton of 321s. Look at JFK at any given day...

Unless you picked JetBlue over Delta you will be fine man. This stuff happens at every airline. They get cheap and think they can get by and bam they get screwed. Sometimes that is a good thing because it can cause good changes. We will get through it, every airline has meltdowns but we work here so it hurts. I think most guys want JetBlue to be a great airline and the union is working hard to get a great contract. What we are seeing is when theory hits reality.

Easy on the F bombs. We are the opposite of furlough right now. We need more frontline employees than we have so mgmt is cutting routes to alleviate some of the problems.

This analysis sounds reasonable. Wouldn't surprise me if you see a replacement E2 order because Embraer is desperate for an order for this new version. Still would love to see a CSeries in JB colors... :)

Should just merge with Alaska and get it over with. You know it's bound to happen sooner or later. Same cheapass management too. It's a no brainer. Would love to get some real west coast bases.

Not to be a downer but ask the 10-15 year guys/gals. B6 has had one trajectory and its been down. In 10 years I haven't seen any improvements. Nothing but losses and takeaways. CBA or not, we're always gonna be the Cleveland Browns of airlines.
Tell that to any successful mgmt/business person that we're cutting routes to alleviate problems. Say it again. We're cutting flights in the most prosperous times of 121. Of course they're not cutting the middle mgmt jobs we all know need to be cut

What's more criminal is the majority of flights they are cutting are daytime, domestic flights. I can think of several other cities and redeyes they could have cut. :rolleyes:

Plot out over the past 5 years how many flights we operate in August, then explain how it's not stready growth. I think you'll find 10 flights is less significant than you think.

It reduces the rate of growth but in absolute terms we're still operating more than ever, same could be said the past few years.

Have you ever tried to land in the daytime?!? It's pretty spooky...

Not sure what's obvious about them being done with the 190? Higher reliability % than the bus? High RASM on the high frequency routes?

I'm in the camp of anything could happen, but other than the obvious inept management... nothing is obvious.

Over here at F9, we have heard several times of Blue on the property and possible purchase offers to buy out/purchase F9 over the past 6-10 months.
Any thoughts or rumors on your end??

http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/business/local/citing-pilot-shortage-alaska-airlines-to-temporarily-drop-some-flights/article_a41b1a1c-5dd2-11e7-ae41-4701e8b5a259.html

Looks like this is going to be standard operating procedure for cheapass companies.

The rumor of the week is UAL again with announcement in August--It'll go back to SWA in September and Frontier will be our Fall merger rumor. ;)

My flights are never scheduled during the daytime, but lately with all the ridiculous delays I've actually logged a few day landings. Sucks... I really need some more Airbus Night time! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

/sarcasm

Applies more to this thread so I'll post it here too.

All FA classes cancelled until fall.


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Isn't that just a logical result of slowing aircraft deliveries and tapered block hours?

Not with the way their attrition is . . . they almost always hire like gangbusters. To suddenly cancel all classes is VERY strange.