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Old 01-20-2018 | 07:53 AM
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Govt shutdown. So much for mediation this week


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Old 01-20-2018 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Read between the lines dumb$h!ts. No hope for this place.
Just be careful guys. When we got hit with the TRO, there were many pages in the court documents quoting APC threads. Just remember anything you post here IS being watched by management.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
Just be careful guys. When we got hit with the TRO, there were many pages in the court documents quoting APC threads. Just remember anything you post here IS being watched by management.
I hope they read this:

My enthusiasm for this company dwindles every day that this contract drags out. Get this contract wrapped up so you don't lose my enthusiasm forever.

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Old 01-20-2018 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy
I hope they read this:

My enthusiasm for this company dwindles every day that this contract drags out. Get this contract wrapped up so you don't lose my enthusiasm forever.

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Yep. If they don't get it done soon the morale and the caring about the company (people going above and beyond) is going to be gone forever. I really don't want that
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Old 01-20-2018 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
Just be careful guys. When we got hit with the TRO, there were many pages in the court documents quoting APC threads. Just remember anything you post here IS being watched by management.
So APC threads that could possibly be management or Russians posting whatever they want are admissible in courts as evidence of UA work action? I’d love to be the lawyer who gets to argue against that.

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Old 01-20-2018 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Yep. If they don't get it done soon the morale and the caring about the company (people going above and beyond) is going to be gone forever. I really don't want that
Yup. The company is messing up. I think there are some really grumpy fellas negotiating for the company that have an axe to grind against the rest of the pilots. They’re ****ed because they got burned by usAir and the yesterday ways of unions and CBAs. They need to let go and move out.

The company wins with an agreement that matches AK. Seriously, I think they only need to get close to AK and we’ll sign off on it. There are more and more guys that I run into, who in the past, would NEVER have said a harsh word about specific Jblue management or practices. Now, they’re exploring their negative thoughts.

They’re losing the goodwill like Hilltops saying. Jetblue carries about $1billion in its market cap that’s ALL Brand. You lose the brand and you lose the company. So keep it up Company negotiators. Watch the Brand suffer.

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Old 01-20-2018 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
So APC threads that could possibly be management or Russians posting whatever they want are admissible in courts as evidence of UA work action? I’d love to be the lawyer who gets to argue against that.

-Bubs
Apparently you don’t know about IP addresses. There were individual pilots named in the lawsuit against SPA as well as ALPA collectively. They got those names from a subpoena/warrant to APC. So yeah if they want to they will find out who you are Bubba.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
So APC threads that could possibly be management or Russians posting whatever they want are admissible in courts as evidence of UA work action? I’d love to be the lawyer who gets to argue against that.

-Bubs
Spirit’s alpa lawyer didn’t get to. Company presented their side to the judge and the judge wouldn’t even speak to alpa because it was that clear. Please listen to your mec. Take them at face value.
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Old 01-20-2018 | 05:49 PM
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This industry is sooo great.

The Golf Channel TV technicians walked out during a live broadcast last week. They had been in negotiations for a year with no progress.

I’m not starting a UA job action. I’m not worried about my IP address. I do as the MEC guides and what the company asks. The whole point is there’s no need for drama. Everyone is in a good position to win.

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Old 01-20-2018 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Apparently you don’t know about IP addresses. There were individual pilots named in the lawsuit against SPA as well as ALPA collectively. They got those names from a subpoena/warrant to APC. So yeah if they want to they will find out who you are Bubba.
I would hope by now everyone who travels for a living and frequently uses unsecured WiFi would use a VPN.
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