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Old 03-23-2019, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
Perhaps you view yourself as the bottom of your peer set. And that is likely much of your problem on here.

I'm not at the bottom of anything. Well, except profit sharing. That's pretty low. What's worse to me, however, is how we let the company bamboozle us by saying we get 15% 401K contribution, yet 5% of our PS funds it. That's pure BS.
Also total compensation, work rules, career progression, toxic management. But yeah other than that you are near the top!
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Old 03-24-2019, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
Perhaps you view yourself as the bottom of your peer set. And that is likely much of your problem on here.

I'm not at the bottom of anything. Well, except profit sharing. That's pretty low.
Perhaps you view yourself as being in a lower-tier peer set if you don't think you're at the bottom.

At least it's better than Mesa, amirite?!

When it comes to a holistic view of pay and benefits, we are at the bottom of our peer set. (UA/DL/AA/AS/WN)
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Old 03-24-2019, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT View Post
Perhaps you view yourself as being in a lower-tier peer set if you don't think you're at the bottom.

At least it's better than Mesa, amirite?!

When it comes to a holistic view of pay and benefits, we are at the bottom of our peer set. (UA/DL/AA/AS/WN)
My peers are the people I work with at jetBlue. If I had wanted to work at DAL, I would have applied there, and then my peers would have been there.

Don't fool yourself into thinking you deserve what legacy pilots have achieved over the past 60 years. If that was you goal, to work for a legacy, then you messed up when you applied to B6. No one to blame but yourself.

At least you got one part right... we are better off than Mesa pilots. All regionals, actually.

Riddle me this, Batman; if JB is so terrible, and the legacies are so much better, then why aren't more pilots leaving JB for them?
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Old 03-24-2019, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
My peers are the people I work with at jetBlue. If I had wanted to work at DAL, I would have applied there, and then my peers would have been there.

Don't fool yourself into thinking you deserve what legacy pilots have achieved over the past 60 years. If that was you goal, to work for a legacy, then you messed up when you applied to B6. No one to blame but yourself.

At least you got one part right... we are better off than Mesa pilots. All regionals, actually.

Riddle me this, Batman; if JB is so terrible, and the legacies are so much better, then why aren't more pilots leaving JB for them?
Wait ... What ????

This is probably one of the dumbest posts I've read on here in a while, and APC has been pretty bad the past few years.
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Old 03-24-2019, 09:53 AM
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Wait ... What ????

This is probably one of the dumbest posts I've read on here in a while, and APC has been pretty bad the past few years.
Good for you.
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Old 03-24-2019, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
My peers are the people I work with at jetBlue. If I had wanted to work at DAL, I would have applied there, and then my peers would have been there.

Don't fool yourself into thinking you deserve what legacy pilots have achieved over the past 60 years. If that was you goal, to work for a legacy, then you messed up when you applied to B6. No one to blame but yourself.

At least you got one part right... we are better off than Mesa pilots. All regionals, actually.

Riddle me this, Batman; if JB is so terrible, and the legacies are so much better, then why aren't more pilots leaving JB for them?
No way you actually are a pilot at Jetblue. So dumb of a post.
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
My peers are the people I work with at jetBlue. If I had wanted to work at DAL, I would have applied there, and then my peers would have been there.
Perhaps you should reflect on the definition of peer set, as used by both ALPA and JB (although JB, like yourself, thinks less of you so they include lower-tier airlines in the peer set).

I'm not even going to give the rest of your post the dignity of a reply.

Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
Wait ... What ????

This is probably one of the dumbest posts I've read on here in a while, and APC has been pretty bad the past few years.
Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
No way you actually are a pilot at Jetblue. So dumb of a post.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
My peers are the people I work with at jetBlue. If I had wanted to work at DAL, I would have applied there, and then my peers would have been there.

Don't fool yourself into thinking you deserve what legacy pilots have achieved over the past 60 years. If that was you goal, to work for a legacy, then you messed up when you applied to B6. No one to blame but yourself.

At least you got one part right... we are better off than Mesa pilots. All regionals, actually.

Riddle me this, Batman; if JB is so terrible, and the legacies are so much better, then why aren't more pilots leaving JB for them?
The seniority system makes it hard to leave.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS View Post
My peers are the people I work with at jetBlue. If I had wanted to work at DAL, I would have applied there, and then my peers would have been there.

Don't fool yourself into thinking you deserve what legacy pilots have achieved over the past 60 years. If that was you goal, to work for a legacy, then you messed up when you applied to B6. No one to blame but yourself.

At least you got one part right... we are better off than Mesa pilots. All regionals, actually.

Riddle me this, Batman; if JB is so terrible, and the legacies are so much better, then why aren't more pilots leaving JB for them?
Did I seriously just read this? There is no way you are a real pilot. If you are, you are everything that is wrong with our pilot group and this profession.

Also...length of a company’s existence is not a determining factor of an employee’s pay. And the union and the company have determined our peer set. I’ll give you a hint: check out the contract comparison guide. Every airline has one. You should probably familiarize yourself with this industry before you continue spewing so much garbage. Perhaps read flying the line 1/2.

Your naivety, ignorance, and lack of knowledge about this profession are evident. It’s too bad you didn’t have good mentorship as you came into this profession. I urge you to seek it out.

Not even the union-busting lawyers Jetblue pays millions to would say our peers are ourselves and not the big 3/SWA/AA. You are grossly misinformed.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Did I seriously just read this? There is no way you are a real pilot. If you are, you are everything that is wrong with our pilot group and this profession.

Also...length of a company’s existence is not a determining factor of an employee’s pay. And the union and the company have determined our peer set. I’ll give you a hint: check out the contract comparison guide. Every airline has one. You should probably familiarize yourself with this industry before you continue spewing so much garbage. Perhaps read flying the line 1/2.

Your naivety, ignorance, and lack of knowledge about this profession are evident. It’s too bad you didn’t have good mentorship as you came into this profession. I urge you to seek it out.

Not even the union-busting lawyers Jetblue pays millions to would say our peers are ourselves and not the big 3/SWA/AA. You are grossly misinformed.
If he is a pilot here he has to be a former cape guy who is 24 years old.
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