All you have to do is tell anyone all the shenanigans BJ has ever done to the pilot group, individual pilots, and all employees and the case sells itself. In fact, to see how screwed the pilots really are, you need not look farther than all the legalisms found in the FOM, BlueBook, and places like the "clean the airplane training". Everything is set up to screw you over (e.g. the commuting policy that doesn't protect you in any way since it always counts against you via the Dependability Policy). People will try to say things like "they've never had an issue with me" but they fail to read it like a legal document, which in the end is all that matters.

This is why we need a contract!

 

It also creates the false expectation that ALPA needs to propose something. It is not a legal requirement to do so. It's best ALPA just "listen" to their proposals in some cases. By not giving a proposal up front, BJ can't bisect ALPAs proposal with theirs. They can't draw a line with only one point. Simple geometry.

The entire message on HelloBJ is disgusting. I want to rip it apart showing how it's nothing but Management 101 SPIN. It prays on your emotions of fairness. It convicts you. However, notice how none of that applies to them. They can offer sub-standard propositions but it's OK because the same standards don't apply to them.

I don't know why it will take an entire month before the next meeting. ALPA needs to be approached and challenged on this. This could be happening daily from the legal standpoint. Someone is choosing to drag this out. I doubt anyone's response will be different 30 days from now.

 

Apparently the moderator had another slot later this month but the company couldn't make it. Make of that what you will.

 

Beg your pardon?!
I’m very tuned in and I absolutely “get it”.
Don’t point fingers and be decisive with this crap!

 

Painting with a rather broad brush Django... many of us “military guys” were instrumental in supporting the drive for the union and we have not stopped fighting since. We all have the same enemy and let’s focus on them and stop pointing fingers. I know myself and many other of my military brothers are on board. Cheers my friend

 

Mil guys aren’t afraid of some stupid corporation. They’re killers.

The problem is that generally mil guys come from an atmosphere where their chain of command isn’t motivated purely by profit so it’s easier to drink the blue juice initially. They think the corporate environment is like the military where they are actually respected and valued. However this can quickly be overcome with a short history lesson on corporate antics.

 

The blue juice tastes like sh!t and they can keep it

 

20 years in the Marine Corps, I don’t remember that feeling. What I remember is constantly being asked to do more with less, take one for the team, put the good of the Corps above the good of your family, it’s an honor to serve, so don’t complain about living in this sh!tty tent. I also learned how to smell a rat. And it didn’t take me long to figure out that something was rotten in Denmark, and that something is the Blue Juice.

I’ve been here for 2 years, and had another opportunity not presented itself, there isn’t a shred of doubt in my mind that I would have stood shoulder to shoulder with the group had a strike occurred in my time here, but alas, I’m off to greener pastures. Hey JB, FUPT (them, cause I quit this b!tch)

 

I was 37 years old the last time I had to fill out paperwork explaining my transportation plan for a 4 day weekend. I felt so valued and respected.

To be honest, I’m not even sure what. I’m arguing for...or against...or whatever. Hey, look! Beer.

 

Pretty amazing, looking back on it, some of the crap you put up with….but congrats on the new gig! Some old squadron mates / friends recently interviewed at SWA and a few didn’t make it through for whatever reason…and these were very qualified guys…..so good on you for getting it.

My good friend, whom is working there now, really likes it. And his second year W-2 is no joke…but you already knew that. All the best…..