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Old 04-03-2018 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
You should write PR releases for North Korea.

The true communist warriors have silenced the capitalist collaborators

Might make some extra cash while waiting for that call or a CBA.
Thats funny stuff.

BTW, Thumbs is right. ALPA should bring a proposal thats higher than the current Alaska rates. And rules. Im pretty sure ALPA has brought that too. The company consistently uses rates to negotiate the ALPA rules requests. The problem the company faces is that our rules suck so bad that there's nothing to give back.

Our pay rates are so far behind industry average that there's nowhere to negotiate rules for rates. They're beat at the table. So, the only way to negotiate when you're beat is to stall. The longer you stall the more you save. The only thing that ALPA could propose to speed things up would be a signing bonus that increases every month we operate without a TA.

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Old 04-03-2018 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
We dont owe the company anything.

The companies last $$ offer was a joke. Was treated as such.

Just because the company says it should happen doesn’t mean it does. Frankly anything that comes from the company regarding negotiations is garbage.
What was the company's last offer? Curious george.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MGMTiswatchingU
What was the company's last offer? Curious george.
Pay rates less than Alaska in exchange for work rules concessions from our already non-existent work rules. So a La Royale CrapBurger with extra cheese...
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Old 04-03-2018 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Pay rates less than Alaska in exchange for work rules concessions from our already non-existent work rules. So a La Royale CrapBurger with extra cheese...
Gotcha.....doesn't sound like that cheese is any good.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MGMTiswatchingU
Gotcha.....doesn't sound like that cheese is any good.
Rotten. Very rotten.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Pay rates less than Alaska in exchange for work rules concessions from our already non-existent work rules. So a La Royale CrapBurger with extra cheese...
True, but it was unclear if the scheduling concessions they wanted were from current book or from the new sections they had already closed out. Either way, they offered substandard rates and they wanted concessions just to get those. It was beyond insulting.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
True, but it was unclear if the scheduling concessions they wanted were from current book or from the new sections they had already closed out. Either way, they offered substandard rates and they wanted concessions just to get those. It was beyond insulting.
Union said from current book.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 12:23 PM
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The current book is so vague, and favors the company in every respect. The reserve rules pretty much state “we own you for 16 hours from your RAP start.” Oh and management will call and trick you into extending to an 18 hour day.

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Old 04-03-2018 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
You should write PR releases for North Korea.

The true communist warriors have silenced the capitalist collaborators

Might make some extra cash while waiting for that call or a CBA.
Or make money betting you on TA completion dates
Still hopin for 2017 Payne? I guess there's still some juice left.
Bpf is lovin you. xx
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Old 04-03-2018 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MGMTiswatchingU
What was the company's last offer? Curious george.
Specific details were not released from either side. However the company seems more willing to negotiate in public. The company also cherry picks snipits and drops letters to the group as if ALPA is holding up the show...

Our union leaders said the last offer wasn't worth the time to read it as has been stated above. So JMO, it was a waste of paper.
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